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False teacher, prophets and doctrines.. again.

And yet it will get nowhere unless one has a deep faith that indeed ALL power / authority had been (in the past) given to Jesus.

The best way to nullify that power is to get "believers" to think it speaks about the future.

I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?
(Luke 18:8 KJV)

Where is the believer that has faith in Matthew 28:18 ?
If the world fails, it ain't Satan's fault.
Yes, all power and authority had been given to Yeshua, THEREFORE we're empowered to make disciples in HIS name and baptize them in HIS name - over all other names, the Lord Yahweh reigns above all other lesser spiritual being, including Satan. What's the problem with that and what are we even arguing about?

Technically, that's a misuse of the word "context," although I am aware that said passage is labeled "The Great Commission."
No verse means anything unless it's put in proper context.
 
"commies" ???

Interesting.

I'm tempted to ask if you've ever actually read the Communist Manifesto. (I have a copy on my shelf, ... next to the US Constitution of course.)
I'd rather spending my time on reading the word of God, not the word of the devil.

"hippie boomers" ???

What an amazing selection of rhetoric. Do you know who wrote the "Pledge of Allegiance" (to the flag) and why?

You might find the facts very interesting (including the fact that until WWII the Boy Scouts of America used the "Nazi" salute arm gesture when reciting the pledge).
So? Render Caesar's to Caesar and God's to God. Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross.
 
So get yer Jesus guns and shoot 'em all and let God sort 'em out ???

I jest, of course, but you haven't really been specific in what actions you deem necessary to take.

Maybe we should start stoning these false prophets.
(Where would you start?)

Maybe a thread... Start a thread?

Kindly,
Rhema
Hmm, last time I checked, that was exactly what Satan did, sending a demon into God's sanctuary, taking six innocent lives. So instead of bickering with a fellow brother here, how about exposing those false teachers and prophets who are blaming it all on guns? How about sounding the alarm that Satan's persecution is ON, specifically targeting at God's people? How about facing the enemy with the full armor of God and the sword of the Spirit?
 
As every generation since the time of Christ has believed.

Where are these "end times" prophets now? Where is Harold Camping, and his ilk?

To be truthful, I've not met anyone, no pastor, no prophet, no evangelist who truly understand what will trigger the Second Coming.

So ... how do YOU know?

God bless,
Rhema

(I mean you seem so sure... yes?)
How do I know? The Lord himself told me so:

For I tell you (Jews), you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’” - Matt. 23:39
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. - Matt. 24:11

Since the time of Christ, no generation has experienced the globalization and the internet the that enables the gospel to be preached to all nations; also, no Jews had proclaimed Yeshua as the Lord until the messianic movement in recent decades. The gospel has travelled all around the world, including many primitive tribes in the jungles, and finally it has returned to its home, the Holy Land, that's why the end is near.
 
Just a little note of Questions: Who created Satan and all of the angels? Who is SATAN's "LORD"? Who have given Satan His powers? And Who will Bound Satan and will lock him up for a thousand years? And who do Satan obey's,? "according to the Bible"? No explanations, just a plain ordinary answer. If not, I can.

5 questions:
1. Who created Satan and all the angels?
2. Who is Satan's "LORD"?
3. Who have given SATAN's POWER TO HIM"?
4. Who Will Bound Satan And Lock Him Up For A Thousand Years.?
5. And who do Satan obey's?
He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world, period.
 
"commies" ???

Interesting.

I'm tempted to ask if you've ever actually read the Communist Manifesto. (I have a copy on my shelf, ... next to the US Constitution of course.)


"hippie boomers" ???

What an amazing selection of rhetoric. Do you know who wrote the "Pledge of Allegiance" (to the flag) and why?

You might find the facts very interesting (including the fact that until WWII the Boy Scouts of America used the "Nazi" salute arm gesture when reciting the pledge).


So get yer Jesus guns and shoot 'em all and let God sort 'em out ???

I jest, of course, but you haven't really been specific in what actions you deem necessary to take.

Maybe we should start stoning these false prophets.
(Where would you start?)

Maybe a thread... Start a thread?

Kindly,
Rhema

A truly hilarious response but some rhetoric is rather poignant, I must admit. It appears many (even children of God) do not even know the differences between some of these terms. I was once accused of being a Socialist for quoting Isaiah 58:6-12 and declaring it God's will!
 
So while we are on the topic of false teachers, prophets and doctrines again ...
The gospel has travelled all around the world, including many primitive tribes in the jungles, and finally it has returned to its home, the Holy Land,
So which gospel is that? As there are many gospels to choose from.
 
How do I know? The Lord himself told me so:

For I tell you (Jews), you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’” - Matt. 23:39
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. - Matt. 24:11

Since the time of Christ, no generation has experienced the globalization and the internet the that enables the gospel to be preached to all nations; also, no Jews had proclaimed Yeshua as the Lord until the messianic movement in recent decades. The gospel has travelled all around the world, including many primitive tribes in the jungles, and finally it has returned to its home, the Holy Land, that's why the end is near.

Speaking of the internet that is exactly what people said about the radio and then television. NOW (then) was allegedly the time.
 
Speaking of the internet that is exactly what people said about the radio and then television. NOW (then) was allegedly the time.
Radio and television were overestimated, they didn't reach all nations. There had always been those gatekeepers, and you only got what you were fed with.
 
Radio and television were overestimated, they didn't reach all nations. There had always been those gatekeepers, and you only got what you were fed with.

No man knows the time of His appearing but we are getting closer. We are in the time of the great falling away but "that man of sin" has yet to be revealed (that is key). This must happen first and he will have his time and then be consumed by the brightness of His coming.
 
No man knows the time of His appearing but we are getting closer. We are in the time of the great falling away but "that man of sin" has yet to be revealed (that is key). This must happen first and he will have his time and then be consumed by the brightness of His coming.
We know we're getting closer as Israel, the fig tree, is budding. This fig tree was cursed and withered, but it is brought to life again when God's chosen people finally begin to accept him. The The gospel was preached "to the Jews first, and then to the Greeks;" but also, "the first will become last and the last first," therefore, Jews are the last to receive the gospel by design, but when they do receive the gospel, then that's the end.
 
We know we're getting closer as Israel, the fig tree, is budding. This fig tree was cursed and withered, but it is brought to life again when God's chosen people finally begin to accept him. The The gospel was preached "to the Jews first, and then to the Greeks;" but also, "the first will become last and the last first," therefore, Jews are the last to receive the gospel by design, but when they do receive the gospel, then that's the end.

Yes! That is an essential point most miss. I am out but when I get back I want to share what God gave me about this back in the late 1990,s.
 
We know we're getting closer as Israel, the fig tree, is budding. This fig tree was cursed and withered, but it is brought to life again when God's chosen people finally begin to accept him. The The gospel was preached "to the Jews first, and then to the Greeks;" but also, "the first will become last and the last first," therefore, Jews are the last to receive the gospel by design, but when they do receive the gospel, then that's the end.

Okay! This is a further reply to Jonathan but all and any can glean from it what you will.


In Genesis 48:19 we hear the blessing/prophecy regarding Ephraim (which is later used as an AKA to describe the House of Israel in the North). In this passage we read how he shall become “a multitude of nations” (in Hebrew the Melo' ha'Goyim), but when the Rabbis translated thi passage to the Greek (in the LXX) they used the same words used by Paul which are translated “fulness of the gentiles”. So first see the word studies and then I will make my point.


Melo #H4393: is a masculine noun which literally means “fullness” or “that which fills” but it can also mean completeness (the verb form ‘mala’ means to accomplish or to be amassed together)

Ha’ is the standard definite article which is usually interpreted ‘the’, ‘of the’, or ‘a’! For example: BaruchHa’Shem Adonai Y’shua Ha’Moschiach Tzeddkenu means Blessed be the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, our Righteousness. This article, just like in English always refers to the noun which in Hebrew precedes it (which in this Scripture is goyim) which in our English follows it (we say “the gentiles or nations” they say “gentiles the, or nations the”).

A second feature, taken from Genesius Hebrew Grammar, reveals that in Hebrew when the definite article is used it automatically implies we do not know precisely who the person, or which object, being described is! It would be like if I said “Go and pick the apple of your choice from my orchard.” I couldn’t possibly know which apple you would pick but that you would pick one would be without doubt. So when we say Ha’Shem (the Name) we cannot be sure which Name is being referred to. In this case the Tetragrammaton (YHVH) may be the name, but exactly how is it correctly pronounced…no one really knows!

Now as for ‘Goyim (#H1471), it is the plural of “goy” which refers to all non-Hebrews. Though as “people” it may include the physical descendants of Abraham, it more so refers to the heathen who knew not God. In all fairness it can be used to refer to “the nations” but again meaning the world apart from Jacob’s tribes (hence Goyim). The cognate root of the word is “ga-ah’ which means to have grown up, to be exalted in triumph, or to be lifted.

So, in my opinion, Paul’s phrase “pleroma ton ethon”, in the Greek, spoke directly to the learned Rabbis of the diaspora, and is a reference to the LXX translation of Genesis 48:19, which in classical Greek says ‘plethos ethnon’. So now break for a moment and read this passage.

So Paul is actually saying when the Melo' ha'Goyim come in, the "fullness of the gentiles" is a furtherance of the Old Latin which literally says “a full number of Gentiles” but these missed this important gem.


When sharing this, the question is usually asked, “Brother Paul, are you saying that the fullness of the gentile (as the offspring of the Ephraimite/ Israelites) are presently being saved?” Yes! That is exactly what I am saying, and I am saying that it is one of the intentions of Messiah having come to earth. As the gentiles are coming in, these still lost sheep of the House of Israel that were mixed in when Assyria scattered them to the four corners of the Empire and after a couple of hundred years they bacame enculturated or sown in among the Gentiles:

Hosea 7:8a - Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people (the goyim)…

Hosea 8:8 - Israel is swallowed up: now shall they be among the Gentiles as a vessel wherein is no pleasure.

So no we see a whole new depth of meaning to Romans 11 where Paul tells us

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?”\


So from these,,,the natural olive tree (the remnant of Judah), the branches that were broken off (Israel sown in among the gentiles) and the wild olive tree being grafted in, He creates the people who were not a people (the church). So as the gentiles of Faith are coming in to the body of Christ, they are bringing in the lost sheep of the House of Israel who have become the Melo' ha'Goyim. Many of the Melo' ha'Goyim are literally IN the gentiles of faith (genetically speaking).

This is why the great co-mission is so very important while He is not physically here. Not only do we gentiles need to be saved as well but the Melo' ha'Goyim (the lost sheep) need to be brought back in to the fold. Amen?
 
it was NOT automatically accomplished when Yeshua declared that all authority was given to him.
So when "Yeshua" declared that all authority was given to him it wasn't true ("accomplished")?

I don thin so.

Most likely, though, it's pronoun purgatory. You said "it." Perhaps you and I are thinking about different "its."

We the church are commissioned to reclaim the lost nations which are STILL under Satan's dominion - by the authority given to Yeshua, and He will return to collect these nations when the job is done.
Well if it has taken you guys two thousand years and you're doing worse than when you started, y'all may want to rethink what you're doing. At this rate, he's never gonna come back.

And if I may, I'm fairly sure that what needs to be re-thunk is this "STILL under Satan's dominion." Sir, NOTHING is under Satan's dominion (power/authority). But according to your faith ??? This teaching, "STILL under Satan's dominion," is why it's still under Satan's dominion (or rather looks that way).

Oh, and by the way, you wanna know what happened to the Ephesian Church in particular? Go read Acts 18:18-28 and Rev. 2:1-7.I'm speechless that this church has lost its first love for Christ, why is that?
I can give you the answer, but I dang well know you will NOT like it. (And I'd rather avoid the risk of a ban.)

I'm pretty sure that this letter to the Ephesian Church was written AFTER Matthew 28:18, is it not?
And I'm pretty sure that if you re-read your own post, you'll realize the temptation of Jesus, of which you spoke, wasn't in Ephesians, but in Luke.

(Please, go back and check.... check the context of my reply.)

Yes, the word of God trumps Satan, but not until you bring the word into Satan's domain and trump him with the word. This is the attitude of complacency I'm talking about, pretending that all is fine and dandy while there's work still to be done.
Well if the work you're doing isn't working, then one should obviously re-evaluate. But when you say "the word of God" I'm tempted to ask which one? (There are two, you know.)

God bless,
Rhema

No verse means anything unless it's put in proper context.
The entire passage is in its own context, sir.
 
I'd rather spending my time on reading the word of God, not the word of the devil.
Greetings and blessings to you Mr. Gale, but I'm about to ask a question that will likely get me banned.

If by "word of God" you mean the Bible, then please, just say Bible. Now the Bible does have this phrase "the word of God" (and there are two of them), but when the Bible defines "the word of God" (both of them) it does not include itself in its own definition (either of them). So if I use a phrase to mean something that it is not, don't I lose the Truth about what it is?

Rhema
(As the truth sets us free.)

Oh... and the Communist Manifesto wasn't written by the devil. Just some guy named Marx.
It's a short book, and you really should read it.... know thine enemy and all that ???
 
So? Render Caesar's to Caesar and God's to God. Stand for the flag, kneel for the cross.
When Jesus gave that teaching, every Jew present knew without a shadow of a doubt that NOTHING was to be rendered to Caesar.

The Jewish nation had capitulated in FEAR to Rome, having lost FAITH in God.

Rhema
(Think about it.)

Have you checked out that false teaching known as "The Pledge of Allegiance" yet? (And my apologies for the presumption that you're American, but am I wrong?) No Christian should let their child utter those words of Satan. (Day after day after day after day in their government schools.)
 
Hmm, last time I checked, that was exactly what Satan did, sending a demon into God's sanctuary, taking six innocent lives. So instead of bickering with a fellow brother here, how about exposing those false teachers and prophets who are blaming it all on guns? How about sounding the alarm that Satan's persecution is ON, specifically targeting at God's people? How about facing the enemy with the full armor of God and the sword of the Spirit?
With all due respect, Mr. Gale, I'm fairly sure you don't know what the sword of the Spirit even is.
It took me awhile to get all that false teaching from other pastors out of my head, and learn to read what was directly written.

Please read my following post, and let me know what you think (by PM, please as we are rather off OP).


Kindly,
Rhema

(I'd like to comment further, but think the above is rather more important to deal with first.)
 
How do I know? The Lord himself told me so:
Well, the Lord told me something different.

But I truly think my previous post is more important and should be dealt with first.

Rhema


(... as an aside....)
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come. - Matt. 24:11
{{ I've recently run into this "movement"(?) that declares the Gospel of the Kingdom is completely different than the Gospel of Grace. They call themselves Acts 28 Christians(?), and preach that the TRUE Gospel was only revealed to Paul. In essence, they purport that the Gospel of the Kingdom was only in force and effect while Jesus was on Earth, and tis now defunct. I have an ongoing conversation with a group of these on another forum. Quite perplexing. }}​

Yes @Br. Bear, stay on OP... I know... I know... but to me, the AC28-ers seem to be preaching a false gospel, while to them, I am most definitely an evil heretic.
 
A truly hilarious response but some rhetoric is rather poignant, I must admit. It appears many (even children of God) do not even know the differences between some of these terms. I was once accused of being a Socialist for quoting Isaiah 58:6-12 and declaring it God's will!
To a great extent, the end goals of Socialism and Christendom are one in the exact same.

It's just the means by which these goals are to be achieved that are radically (even diametrically) opposed.

One stems from the Love in one's heart to help those in need around him. And one stems from the Hate in one's heart to demand to be helped by others around him.


TAX the RICH, Feed the Poor, til there are no Rich no more...



(From the Modern Day Psalms compiled by Rhema)
 
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