How do I accept Jesus as my Savior?

[Truth_seeker2022]

God gave us freewill and the plan for salvation was made before anything
God knew we would sin.
He wants us to chose to love Him, and we do that by obeying Him.

Didn't you say babies are born knowing about God?
That is not true that we are born knowing about God, we have to be taught.

God gave freewill & that's why babies believe in Jesus (Mt18:6) & haven't yet chosen the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.

 

[God's Truth]

So do you admit you are delivered from the moral law by faith according to Romans7:6?

No such thing as belonging to God and not obeying the moral laws.
That scripture you referenced is about being released from the old law, which was more than just moral laws.
The old law had people cut off and put to death for breaking the old law, and, it had the deeds, works of the law which are the purification works.
Jesus came and made a new testament, a new covenant.
The new is the old with some changes.
We are still not to murder, steal, lie, and commit adultery. Are those the moral laws you say we don't have to obey anymore?

 

[God's Truth]

That's why Adam and Eve chose the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.

God doesn't make robots. God made us with a free will and He wants us to chose to love Him.

 

[God's Truth]

God gave freewill & that's why babies believe in Jesus (Mt18:6) & haven't yet chosen the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.

That scripture is about LITTLE ONES, not new born infants.
No such thing as not having to be taught about God and Jesus.
When Adam and Eve sinned and were cast out, we have to be taught, we have to get back in...reconciled to God.

 

[GodB4Us]

So do you admit you are delivered from the moral law by faith according to Romans7:6?

How do you apply that comment to mean?

Am I saved by faith in Jesus Christ? Yes then.

Am I no longer required to obey the moral law? For justification and salvation? Yes, I am no longer required.

For abiding in Him and His words as His disciple, I am required but since salvation, the hope is still on Him to help me to follow Him, and not on me. My confidence is in Him to finish His work in me to His glory as i trust Him as my Good Shepherd & Friend to help me keep His commandments which are higher than the works of the law under the Old Covenant only because we are to trust God to do it under the New Covenant for why His yoke is easy & His burden is light to find rest for our souls in getting to know Him & the power of His resurrection for we cannot live this reconciled relationship with God without faith in Jesus Christ & His words to us.

 

[GodB4Us]

God gave freewill & that's why babies believe in Jesus (Mt18:6) & haven't yet chosen the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.

Free will has nothing to do with adults believing in Jesus Christ when it is the Father that draws us unto the Son to reveal His Son to us so we can believe and thus our belief and our faith in Jesus Christ is a gift & a work from God too.

So it is the Father that reveals His Son to even babes ( I dare say also for babes in the wombs if He wants to before the rapture event ) as He still has to draw them to the Son to enable them to believe in Him to be saved too.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.......... 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

When sinners are slaves to sin and sin is driving us away from God, we can see why the Father has to draw sinners to the Son, even babes, so He can reveal His Son to them to believe in Him to be saved. No free wll there

 

[GodB4Us]

Between The OP's presentation of the gospel which can be found in Evangelical altar calls sometimes when to acknowledge that we are a sinner in need of God as our Saviour for why believing in Jesus Christ is how God is pleased to save those who believe, 1 Corinthians 1:21 it is important to recognize the crossing of the line in giving that call of repentance to sinners as if to repent from all sins before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ when some sinners have tried to quit sinning on their own and know they cannot do it when sin has dominion over their lives.

So there may be a lot of sinners out there not coming to Jesus Christ because they are led to believe they have to clean up their lives first before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ when in actuality, they need to know the purpose of Jesus Christ is to destroy the work of the devil in their lives in setting them free to live as His and not just give them eternal life.

John 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me....40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure..... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

So may sinners know that Jesus will deliver them from their bondage to sin and to death and have eternal life as well as an abundant life in living that reconciled relationship with Gd thru Jesus Christ as He sets us free from sin in our lives.

John 8:30 As he spake these words, many believed on him. 31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

 

[Sue D.]

As for babies and salvation. A person has to be old enough to understand right from wrong. A baby has no concept of that. They know hunger and discomfort from various causes. It's up to caring, loving adult to take care of their basic needs. Usually by early grade school age a child is able to understand right from wrong. Until then, they are under God's grace.

 

[God's Truth]

Between The OP's presentation of the gospel which can be found in Evangelical altar calls sometimes when to acknowledge that we are a sinner in need of God as our Saviour for why believing in Jesus Christ is how God is pleased to save those who believe, 1 Corinthians 1:21

That scripture does not say it pleases God for us to just believe and do nothing else.
You keep preaching to only believe because you must think you know better than God who says to repent of our sins.

it is important to recognize the crossing of the line in giving that call of repentance to sinners as if to repent from all sins before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ when some sinners have tried to quit sinning on their own and know they cannot do it when sin has dominion over their lives.

They still have tor confess their sins and repent of them, to crucify themselves with on the cross and believe Jesus' blood purifies them.
If a person doesn't die to sins then they can't be born again.
No is is born again without first dying.

So there may be a lot of sinners out there not coming to Jesus Christ because they are led to believe they have to clean up their lives first before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ when in actuality, they need to know the purpose of Jesus Christ is to destroy the work of the devil in their lives in setting them free to live as His and not just give them eternal life.

No such thing what you say, it is just proof you think you know better than Jesus. I think you make that fake scenario to try to justify why you go against Jesus who says to repent of sins.
When people came to John the baptizer and Jesus' disciples to get water baptized, they then and there REPENTED OF THEIR SINS.
Your made up thing about people trying to stop their sins first before coming to Christ doesn't make sense, who stays away from Christ but tries to quit sins for him???!!! Trying to quit sins for Christ is someone who came to Christ!

 

[GodB4Us]

As for babies and salvation. A person has to be old enough to understand right from wrong. A baby has no concept of that. They know hunger and discomfort from various causes. It's up to caring, loving adult to take care of their basic needs. Usually by early grade school age a child is able to understand right from wrong. Until then, they are under God's grace.

I can remember being held by my aunt as a baby who had said I was her other Mommy. My other aunt saw my look of confusion & had commented on it to my aunt that had said that.

I remember my Dad changing my diaper and complimenting me oddly about it that I did a good job. And I happily obliged him and did more of my duty and he was upset and angry about it and that made me cry.

I have heard of people saying they remember being in their mother's womb. I don't.

I can understand offenses and hurt and disappointment and confusion for which babies have to have understanding for confusion to come about.

Anyway, regardless, I believe His words that no man can come to the Son unless the Father draws him, including babies and I dare say even the unborn for God the Father can reveal His Son to the unborn if He wanted to since in sin, we have been conceived in our mother's womb. Psalm 51:6 seems to suggest, infer , and even imply that the Father can make us know the truth before we were even born bit Matthew 11:25 does testify. He can reveal His Son to babes to believe in Him & be saved.

Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. 6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden part thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

I believe God the Father knows every one created to be born if they would want to be saved by God through Jesus Christ or that they prefer their evil deeds rather than to believe in Him to be saved.

There will be no one in Hell saying they would have believed if they had only known the gospel. They may want to send someone to warn their families like the rich man did in asking Abraham in Abraham's bosom but Abraham said that they have His words as he had and if they did not listen to His words, they would not listen to one even if risen from the dead because.. as I add to point out even for the rich man in hell, they'd prefer their evil deeds still.

Anyway, I believe God is God and no babies, unborn or otherwise will be in hell if they would have believed if they had only known the gospel when He would have drawn them unto the Son to believe in Him to be saved.

Saul met Jesus the way to Damascus and Muslims met Jesus in visions and revelations for why they now believe in Him to be saved, and so not so hard for the Father to reveal His on to babies, born or unborn to believe in Him to be saved.

At the rapture event, I dare say it may even be possible that an unborn child could be raptured without the mother, but I will know for sure when we are face to face with the Lord in Heaven.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

Free will has nothing to do with adults believing in Jesus Christ when it is the Father that draws us unto the Son to reveal His Son to us so we can believe and thus our belief and our faith in Jesus Christ is a gift & a work from God too.

So it is the Father that reveals His Son to even babes ( I dare say also for babes in the wombs if He wants to before the rapture event ) as He still has to draw them to the Son to enable them to believe in Him to be saved too.

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.......... 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Matthew 11:25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

When sinners are slaves to sin and sin is driving us away from God, we can see why the Father has to draw sinners to the Son, even babes, so He can reveal His Son to them to believe in Him to be saved. No free wll there

Don't digress into my discussion with others. First you reply to our discussion. 'Adam & Eve didn't have moral knowledge & that's why they stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence'. Now reply.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

How do you apply that comment to mean?

Am I saved by faith in Jesus Christ? Yes then.

Am I no longer required to obey the moral law? For justification and salvation? Yes, I am no longer required.

For abiding in Him and His words as His disciple, I am required but since salvation, the hope is still on Him to help me to follow Him, and not on me. My confidence is in Him to finish His work in me to His glory as i trust Him as my Good Shepherd & Friend to help me keep His commandments which are higher than the works of the law under the Old Covenant only because we are to trust God to do it under the New Covenant for why His yoke is easy & His burden is light to find rest for our souls in getting to know Him & the power of His resurrection for we cannot live this reconciled relationship with God without faith in Jesus Christ & His words to us.

"For abiding in Him and His words as His disciple, I am required". So you need to fulfill the moral law in order to abide in Him?

If Adam and Eve had the moral law, would they have stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence? Is staying unclothed in God's most holy presence, abiding in Him?

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

That scripture is about LITTLE ONES, not new born infants.
No such thing as not having to be taught about God and Jesus.
When Adam and Eve sinned and were cast out, we have to be taught, we have to get back in...reconciled to God.

Are you saying God makes mistake by creating babies without faith in Jesus & with the forbidden knowledge of good and evil?

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

God doesn't make robots. God made us with a free will and He wants us to chose to love Him.

That's why all freewill humans believe in Jesus right from birth & later choose to reject faith & disobediently choose the forbidden knowledge of good and evil as they grow up.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

No such thing as belonging to God and not obeying the moral laws.
That scripture you referenced is about being released from the old law, which was more than just moral laws.
The old law had people cut off and put to death for breaking the old law, and, it had the deeds, works of the law which are the purification works.
Jesus came and made a new testament, a new covenant.
The new is the old with some changes.
We are still not to murder, steal, lie, and commit adultery. Are those the moral laws you say we don't have to obey anymore?

Are you saying Adam and Eve staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is a righteous deed?

 

[God's Truth]

Are you saying God makes mistake by creating babies without faith in Jesus & with the forbidden knowledge of good and evil?

What you just surmised is illogical.
The BIBLE is God's Word.
God's Word says we have to be TAUGHT about Him.

The scriptures even say that Jesus increased in wisdom as a child.
So your claiming we all just know God is strange.
The scriptures say plainly how do we know unless we heard.

Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

Romans 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ.

 

[God's Truth]

That's why all freewill humans believe in Jesus right from birth & later choose to reject faith & disobediently choose the forbidden knowledge of good and evil as they grow up.

Nonsense and goes against the scriptures.

 

[God's Truth]

Are you saying Adam and Eve staying unclothed in God's most holy presence is a righteous deed?

What you ask is just too weird and convoluted.

 

[GodB4Us]

Don't digress into my discussion with others. First you reply to our discussion. 'Adam & Eve didn't have moral knowledge & that's why they stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence'. Now reply.

Oh I see what you are doing. Being an antagonist. A wresting of words and then when that fails, ..... ~~~~ No further reply is required. You lose.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

Oh I see what you are doing. Being an antagonist. A wresting of words and then when that fails, ..... ~~~~ No further reply is required. You lose.

You have lost not truth as you haven't repliedto the following which you deny!

'Adam & Eve didn't have moral knowledge & that's why they stayed unclothed in God's most holy presence'. C'mon grow up.