How do I accept Jesus as my Savior?

[Sue D.]

Your last paragraph sound like a person has to be baptized over and over again in order to continue living for Christ.

 

[GodB4Us]

Well , yes and no.
Those who accept Jesus Christ shed blood on the cross as being sufficient to take care of all our sins -- God sees us as justified / just as if I'd never sinned.

No one is 'pure' until they are with Jesus Christ for eternity.

Even as a result of salvation, we still have the sin nature in us. That why Paul comments about the inner struggle that he experiences.

if you are referring to Romans 7th chapter, that was Paul signifying what it was like for him under the law as a Jew in with his mind, he served the law but his flesh served sin. But Romans 8th chapter signified deliverance and a warning to believers not to sow to the works of the flesh where there is condemnation but since we have been delivered from sin's dominion, we can trust Jesus Christ to finish His work in us to His glory as we rely on im daily to help us lay aside ever weight & sin in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son.

The desire to do good and ending up doing otherwise. The desire to do the right thing does win a lot of the time and then we go do something we really know we shouldn't. Part of being a human being.

In running that race daily we can ask Jesus for forgiveness and lay aside whatever weights or provision for the flesh that had tempted us to sin and ask for His help not to do those sins again by not having any provision for it to tempt us again.

 

[GodB4Us]

Your last paragraph sound like a person has to be baptized over and over again in order to continue living for Christ.

Who was that address to?

If it was to me, can you quote that last paragraph, please? Not sure how I even inferred or implied that. What a gaffe if it was me! Forgive me, Lord.

 

[Sue D.]

A person has to put their faith in the shed blood of Jesus on the cross purifying them of the sins they repent of doing.

The Jews used to do the works of the law which are the purification works, they used to have to sacrifice the blood of lambs and be circumcised in the flesh and do the other purification works.

Now we have to confess to Jesus our sins and repent of them, crucify ourselves on the cross with Christ and die to the sins of the world and raise up to please Jesus.

@God's Truth -- this last paragraph.

 

[God's Truth]

Well , yes and no.
Those who accept Jesus Christ shed blood on the cross as being sufficient to take care of all our sins -- God sees us as justified / just as if I'd never sinned.

No one is 'pure' until they are with Jesus Christ for eternity.

That is not what the Bible says.
When one is saved, they are made perfect and holy, they are without sins; they are born again with a new life starting over.

Hebrews 10:10 and by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Hebrews 10:14 because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy

Hebrews 11:40 since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect.

Hebrews 12:13 And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood.

Hebrews 12:23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,

Hebrews 2:11 Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers and sisters.

John 17:19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified

Ephesians 5:26 to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word,

Even as a result of salvation, we still have the sin nature in us.

The saved aren't supposed to have a sin nature anymore.

That why Paul comments about the inner struggle that he experiences.

That is what false teachers teach. They say Paul was speaking of himself as still struggling with sin when he was speaking about those under the law without faith.

The desire to do good and ending up doing otherwise.

No way did Paul desire to do good and end up doing otherwise after being saved.

Paul kept his body under submission so that he didn't lose his salvation while he helped others get saved.

1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

would The desire to do the right thing does win a lot of the time and then we go do something we really know we shouldn't. Part of being a human being.

That doesn't sound right.

 

[God's Truth]

Your last paragraph sound like a person has to be baptized over and over again in order to continue living for Christ.

Who are you saying that to?

 

[God's Truth]

@God's Truth -- this last paragraph.

Could you elaborate?

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

By believing in Jesus Christ & His words. God justifies me for believing in Him.

Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Salvation has come to me since I have believed in Him since a tot. However, although reconciled to God thru Jesus Christ, He had to help me be His friend by trusting Him as my Good Shepherd to follow Him & His words as His disciple in my adult years ahead and onward still, thanks to the Father in Jesus's name.

If you are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice & not by the moral law, why do you refuse to be delivered from the moral law? (Romans7:6:"But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held").

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

What? Humans aren't born believing in Jesus, they have to hear about him. See Romans 10:14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?

Choose the forbidden moral law? What? Where do you get the law is forbidden?

1) Deuteronomy 1:39: "your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil".
Humans are born without the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.
Why would God create babies with the knowledge that He forbade originally?

2)
Mathew 18:5: "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me".

'One such little child' refers to any child & all little children. It is in this background that Jesus says 'one of these little ones which believe in me (Mathew18:6)' to refer to all little children.

This is clear proof Jesus says all little children believe in Him.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

We were all born needing to be taught about God, but how do you get we were born without the ability to know good and evil when God says we were?

Genesis3:22: "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil".

God did not create Adam and Eve with the forbidden knowledge of good and evil. They disobediently chose the knowledge of good and evil.

 

[Sue D.]

A person has to put their faith in the shed blood of Jesus on the cross purifying them of the sins they repent of doing.

The Jews used to do the works of the law which are the purification works, they used to have to sacrifice the blood of lambs and be circumcised in the flesh and do the other purification works.

Now we have to confess to Jesus our sins and repent of them, crucify ourselves on the cross with Christ and die to the sins of the world and raise up to please Jesus.

This is post 218. The last paragraph -- now we have to confess to Jesus our sins and repent of them, crucify ourselves on the cross with Christ and die to the sins of the world and raise up to please Jesus". What do you mean by that.?

 

[God's Truth]

1) Deuteronomy 1:39: "your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, and your children, which in that day had no knowledge between good and evil".
Humans are born without the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.
Why would God create babies with the knowledge that He forbade originally?

God gave us freewill and the plan for salvation was made before anything
God knew we would sin.
He wants us to chose to love Him, and we do that by obeying Him.

2)
Mathew 18:5: "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me".

'One such little child' refers to any child & all little children. It is in this background that Jesus says 'one of these little ones which believe in me (Mathew18:6)' to refer to all little children.

This is clear proof Jesus says all little children believe in Him.

Didn't you say babies are born knowing about God?
That is not true that we are born knowing about God, we have to be taught.

 

[God's Truth]

Genesis3:22: "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil".

God did not create Adam and Eve with the forbidden knowledge of good and evil. They disobediently chose the knowledge of good and evil.

Again, created us with freewill and He knew we would sin.
God doesn't robots.

 

[God's Truth]

This is post 218. The last paragraph -- now we have to confess to Jesus our sins and repent of them, crucify ourselves on the cross with Christ and die to the sins of the world and raise up to please Jesus". What do you mean by that.?

When a person wants to be a child of God, an heir, saved, loved by God, reconciled to Him...they have to come to the cross and crucify themselves with Jesus, which is to die to the sins of the world, and believe that Jesus' blood washes away our sins, purifies us, after we die and raise up to live our new life, we are born again, and live pleasing Jesus by obeying him.

That is how we are born again and receive the Holy Spirit.

Romans 6:6 We know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should no longer be slaves to sin.

Colossians 3:3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

Read this scripture:

John 3:3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”


We have to die in order to be born again.
We repent of our sins and die to the sins of the world and raise up to live a new life obeying Jesus.

 

[God's Truth]

Very good RJ. You are right, we have two birthdays. Born of a woman, and Born of the Spirit. I personally agree with you on a particular date when a person is born again. If they don't have a date, I usually press them to remember. Most of the time, the person is not saved. What you do is correct in leading them to Christ Jesus.

I have a powerful testimony of when I was saved, and I believe Jesus didn't want me to place a date on it, or I might worship that date.

 

[God's Truth]

Sorry, but another caveat to such a bold statement:
Paul never made water baptism any part of his gospel presentations. In 1 Corinthians 15: 1-4 Paul gives a concise summary of the gospel message he preached. There is no mention of baptism. In 1 Corinthians 1:17, Paul states that "Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel," thus clearly differentiating the gospel from baptism.

Paul got water baptized, and, he did baptize some people. The reason why Paul was glad he didn't water baptize more is because people were saying they were baptized unto the one doing the baptism, like Peter, or Apollos, etc.

People were saying they were baptized unto Apollos because Paul preached the gospel...laid the seed, and Apollos did the baptizing...the watering.

1 Corinthians 1:11-12 My brothers, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.” 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Were you baptized in the name of Paul?

1 Corinthians 3:1Brothers, I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly—mere infants in Christ. 2I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for it. Indeed, you are still not ready. 3You are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and quarreling among you, are you not worldly? Are you not acting like mere men? 4For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men?

5What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe—as the Lord has assigned to each his task. 6I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow. 7So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8The man who plants and the man who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor. 9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.

 

[God's Truth]

Brother Waggles, have you forgot what the gospel is? ( gal 1:6-10) The gospel is, and always will be about HIS GRACE! For can I judge a person who says he believes but has not received water baptism? And if water baptism is so important, how is it Jesus never baptized anyone???( john 4:1-2) The reason Jesus never baptized is because water cannot save,only his blood can! If water baptism could save,then it would be a work of man and not of the Lord,hence why water saves no one. Now sure,I did not waste any time following in what Jesus did! But to judge a person who has not been,is incorrect according to the Word himself!( rom 2:1-5) verse 4!!! Many look to bring guilt to others because many look to be followed themselves,not saying you are at all brother Waggles!! But you also see the great harm many believers can do by placing a work upon someone else. Blessing bro!

Jesus didn't baptize but his disciples did. Jesus didn't baptize because Jesus baptizes with the Holy Spirit and it was not time yet for anyone to be baptized by Jesus with the Holy Spirit.

As for what you preach about no works, it is a misunderstanding about what Paul says, for Paul was speaking about the works of the law not purifying anyone anymore, only through Jesus are we purified, by our faith that his blood that was shed on the cross does it.
Jesus does the purifying works for us now, we don't do them anymore.
It means we no longer get circumcised, observe special days, adhere to a special diet, and sacrifice animals to be cleaned, justified…purified before God. However, we still have to repent of our sins, die to the sins of the world and call on Jesus to help us, save us, give us his Holy Spirit.

 

[GodB4Us]

If you are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice & not by the moral law, why do you refuse to be delivered from the moral law? (Romans7:6:"But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held").

How is it that I am refusing to be delivered from the moral law?

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

How is it that I am refusing to be delivered from the moral law?

So do you admit you are delivered from the moral law by faith according to Romans7:6?

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

Again, created us with freewill and He knew we would sin.
God doesn't robots.

That's why Adam and Eve chose the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.