loveandsonship
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Debating's for the birds.
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SignUp Now!Just reaffirming what you had posted.You people can pick an argument where ever.
All humans are born by believing in Jesus & without the knowledge of good and evil. But then they choose the forbidden moral law & lose faith in Jesus. Have you repented?Do you want to know God?
Do you yearn to experience the Lord’s comforting presence, power, and wisdom? That’s good, because God loves you and wants to have a personal relationship with you forever.
The problem is . . .
. . . one thing separates you from a relationship with God—sin. You and I sin whenever we fail to live by the Lord’s holy standard. In fact, Romans 3:23: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”
Furthermore, Romans 6:23 explains that the penalty for sin is death—separation from God in hell forever. No matter how hard we try, we cannot save ourselves or get rid of our sins. We can’t earn our way to heaven by being good, going to church, or being baptized (Eph. 2:8-9).
Understanding how helpless we are because of our sins, God sent His only Son, Jesus, to save us.
Jesus Christ lived a perfect, sinless life, and then died on the cross to pay the penalty for our sins (Rom. 5:8). Three days later, He rose from the dead—showing that He had triumphed over sin and death once and for all.
So how can you know God?
It all starts with accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ provides a relationship with the Father and eternal life through His death on the cross and resurrection (Rom. 5:10).
Romans 10:9 promises, “If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.” If you have not yet begun your personal relationship with God, understand that the One who created you loves you no matter who you are or what you’ve done. He wants you to experience the profound depth of His care.
Therefore, tell God that you are willing to trust Him for salvation. You can tell Him in your own words or use this simple prayer:
Lord Jesus, I ask You to forgive my sins and save me from eternal separation from God. By faith, I accept Your work and death on the cross as sufficient payment for my sins. Thank You for providing the way for me to know You and to have a relationship with my heavenly Father. Through faith in You, I have eternal life. Thank You also for hearing my prayers and loving me unconditionally. Please give me the strength, wisdom, and determination to walk in the center of Your will. In Jesus’ name, amen.
If you have just prayed this prayer, congratulations!
You were born without the knowledge of good and evil. Don't you need to be delivered from it?A person's life will show their inner salvation. Believing that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That He died on the cross with our sins / for our sins/ that He was buried and that He rose again on the third day.
Believe in your heart and confess with your mouth.
It's more than just head knowledge / it's the heart belief.
All humans are born by believing in Jesus & without the knowledge of good and evil. But then they choose the forbidden moral law & lose faith in Jesus. Have you repented?
Psalm 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.You were born without the knowledge of good and evil. Don't you need to be delivered from it?
We were never meant To have the knowledge of both good and evil. So-- we listened to Satan lies instead of God's truth. A person can be delivered from sinfulness by accepting. Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.You were born without the knowledge of good and evil. Don't you need to be delivered from it?
We were meant to know good from evil, it is how we can truly love God of our own free will, when we choose good.We were never meant To have the knowledge of both good and evil. So-- we listened to Satan lies instead of God's truth. A person can be delivered from sinfulness by accepting. Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.
Was the Apostle Paul a bird?Debating's for the birds.
Jesus says to those who say, "Jesus you are my Lord"---The Bible says, "If you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart, God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.We were meant to know good from evil, it is how we can truly love God of our own free will, when we choose good.
God loved His CREATION. That is "us" in general.1 John 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.
Notice you ignored the scripture I gave you that say we have to obey?We could not love Him nor choose Him unless He had first loved us and had chosen us.
No one can even get in him to be pruned if you don't first do what he says to do.Better expect pruning, brother, in order for you to bear more fruit. That is the only way we can move on to perfection in our walk with Him.
We have free will, God says so.There is no free will when sinners are slaves to sin and need God as his Deliverer.
Romans 10:9 promises, “If you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”
Not what is written. We can only love Him because He first loved us.God loved His CREATION. That is "us" in general.
Sinners needs His intervention so we can love Him.God doesn't personally know those who don't love Him by obeying Him.
Obey by believing in Him to help us to follow Him? Yeah.. I read that but you missed it.Notice you ignored the scripture I gave you that say we have to obey?
If we can prune ourselves, then why would we need Him to prune us?No one can even get in him to be pruned if you don't first do what he says to do.
Quote the scripture. Paul when he was known as Saul under the law, had no free will since he admitted he was a slave to sin. With the mind he served the law but his flesh served sin. How is that free will?We have free will, God says so.
Not what is written. We can only love Him because He first loved us.
You will never be able to get around the truth that we have to be obedient to God.Obey by believing in Him to help us to follow Him? Yeah.. I read that but you missed it.
Jesus came and taught how to make your heart right, the kind of heart he saves.If we can prune ourselves, then why would we need Him to prune us?
Quote the scripture. Paul when he was known as Saul under the law, had no free will since he admitted he was a slave to sin. With the mind he served the law but his flesh served sin. How is that free will?
How is it that you keep skipping over that portion of the verse in how you get everlasting life by believing in Him?God so loved the world is about God loving His creation.
John 3:16 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
You aren't even considered known by God personally if you don't love Him by obeying Him.
1 Corinthians 8:3 But whoever loves God is known by God
You will never be able to get around the truth that we have to be obedient to God.
Jesus came and taught how to make your heart right, the kind of heart he saves.
That is what you do.How is it that you keep skipping over that portion of the verse in how you get everlasting life by believing in Him
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Is it because you apply every scripture in according to your belief regardless of what He says or what is written?
Still cannot see the Father as drawing them unto the Son, eh? If they were doing right, then how are they sinners that need the Father to draw them unto the Son to believe in Him to be saved?That is what you do.
Read more of John 3.
Jesus says those who do right are the ones who come to him:
John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
They don't hide their sins like the others who want to keep those sins!Still cannot see the Father as drawing them unto the Son, eh? If they were doing right, then how are they sinners that need the Father to draw them unto the Son to believe in Him to be saved?
It's called doing what God wants us to do.You people can pick an argument where ever.