John 1:1- the CONTEXT and Christ!

[QuestionIt]

So in your mind when John baptized Jesus he was baptizing God, and that the one who told Him upon whom you see the Spirit descending and remaining on Him He is the one who
will baptize with the Holy Ghost and fire, God was baptizing Himself with His own Spirit?

They will believe anything but the Bible!

 

[QuestionIt]

John 12:49- For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has Himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak.
50- And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has bidden me.

Now let us smother it with the 'Trinity':

The One God (God-the-Son) was told what to say by ANOTHER God (God-the-Father)!
That makes 2 God- where's God-the-Ghost?

 

[PloughBoy]

I am going to put my two pennies in here, which I know they have no weight whatsoever. I am going to put them in the “coffer” anyhow.
You must start with “A”, and if one cannot grasp the human of “A” one cannot grasp a thought concerning a “INFINITE GOD” := “INCOMPREHENSIBLE GOD” by a “FINITE Mind”.
For “Tertullian” understood this and how he defended it Against the thoughts of “Praveas”. Some where I think around AD. 250-400, I cannot remember. But “I do remember how “Tertullian” “soildfied” his defense at the end.

quick note:
If you do not get “A” right. You can forget about; “B C D E…ff X y and Z. And “Omega” is only a word to you.
You always can tell those who never read and observe the 1st. Arguments and read “THEE Doctrine of The TRINTY”. Not realizing, 1st. One must study “The Doctrine of “Christ” and Then have studied “The Doctrine of The Parakletos”.
“Christology”
Have any having heard the term: “The Cart before The Horse”?

When I was young in ministry, those old pastors got on your back in that back room, made you cry, real tears all week. Curse you out on a “Sunday” just before Sunday Morning Services! Told you to go back and get it “Right”!
They got on you so hard until GOD would tell them to get off! they would tell you when GOD said get off of you! When you came out the “Bull Shoot” and Mounted That “Podium”, you was Loaded with The WORD of GOD with power, you could see those invisible “demons” scattering , heads be jumping in the Congregation, heads be snapping back, fear be in those eyes. When through “preaching” it will feel so clean in the congregation there eyes would be bright and clear. They did not know they have been“Wash” by The Presentation of The Unadulterated “Word of GOD” and not. compromise,

Today is this generation it is not done. Today is a host of preachers and masters are nothing but crowd pleasers, The Congregation comes in dirty and they leave dirty! Rejoicing!

You remember what they use to say about baptism? Some comes in “A dry devil and leave out a wet one”. I heard that when I was kid. Never could figure that out.

Sorry I gave, 4 cents instead of 2 cents.

Some of them sometimes would threaten you too, talking about you put their business in the street when you was preaching, you knew nothing about there business some times you didn’t know their name. lOL,

When a person proclaim that Truth like it is suppose be proclaim, That becomes you death warrant, Don’t no small demon come after you, this BIG demons and those devils come after you big time. That devil tell in your ears you better not say it, I got permission from “GOD” to prune you again! Not saying it. LOL!

 

[th1bill]

You are free to be your own God but you cannot restrain yourself from Eternity in the Lake of Fire...sad!

 

[th1bill]

John 12:49- For I have not spoken on my own authority; the Father who sent me has Himself given me commandment what to say and what to speak.
50- And I know that his commandment is eternal life. What I say, therefore, I say as the Father has bidden me.

Now let us smother it with the 'Trinity':

The One God (God-the-Son) was told what to say by ANOTHER God (God-the-Father)!
That makes 2 God- where's God-the-Ghost?

Only a Fool will pretend that he or she can explain the Triune Elohim. He is One God and since He has not fully revealed Himself to us yet. We believe with the same faith, as I see it, that the Big Bang Crowd uses to believe that impossible lie. With our faith placed in YHWH we are privileged to commune with Him and to see Him work in our lives.

With the Big Bang... well.

 

[QuestionIt]

You are free to be your own God but you cannot restrain yourself from Eternity in the Lake of Fire...sad!

Sure I can!

 

[QuestionIt]

Only a Fool will pretend that he or she can explain the Triune Elohim.

I will agree with you on THAT!

 

[QuestionIt]

John 14:1-Let not your hearts be troubled; believe in God, believe also in me.

Let us see if we can fit the "Trinity" in that one...
Nope!

 

[Samson2020]

John 14:1-Let not your hearts be troubled; believe in God, believe also in me.

Let us see if we can fit the "Trinity" in that one...
Nope!

I like that verse simply because it identifies Jesus as separating Himself from being God. "Ye believe in God, believe also in me." Signifying 2 separate entities.

 

[QuestionIt]

Can YOU $1Biil?

 

[Butch5]

You need to read post #59 again.

You've contradicted yourself in that post. You said Jesus raised Himself and quoted passages that say God raised Him. Who did it?

 

[Butch5]

Only a Fool will pretend that he or she can explain the Triune Elohim. He is One God and since He has not fully revealed Himself to us yet. We believe with the same faith, as I see it, that the Big Bang Crowd uses to believe that impossible lie. With our faith placed in YHWH we are privileged to commune with Him and to see Him work in our lives.

With the Big Bang... well.

But the Scriptures don't indicate a triune God. That is an inference people draw from Scripture. If that's the case then one is placing their faith in an inference, not Scripture. The Scriptures tell us that "there is one God, the Father". Jesus said to the Father, 'this is eternal life that they may know you, the only true God'. Jesus could have said, us the only true God, but, He didn't. He said the Father is the only true God. Thus He excluded Himself from the only true God.

 

[QuestionIt]

John 16:5- But now I am going to Him who sent me!

Going to WHOM????

 

[Curtis]

You've contradicted yourself in that post. You said Jesus raised Himself and quoted passages that say God raised Him. Who did it?

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
Joh 2:20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?”
Joh 2:21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body.

 

[QuestionIt]

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
Joh 2:20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?”
Joh 2:21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body.

Hmmmm!
Did Christ resurrect while being DEAD?
Did Christ resurrect while being ALIVE?

I know the answer, by his own words!
Do YOU?

 

[QuestionIt]

John 17:3- And this is eternal life, that they know thee the ONLY true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou hast SENT.

Now do you believe Christ knew what he was talking about, or do you believe in the 'Trinity' dogmuck?

 

[Butch5]

Joh 2:19 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
Joh 2:20 The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?”
Joh 2:21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body.

Yes, He was speaking a parable. How exactly can someone who is dead bring themselves back to life?

We've got to understand that the Scriptures use figurative language. Not every word is exactly literal. We've also got to reconcile it with all of the other passages of Scripture. If one's understanding of a passage is contrary to other passages that understanding is incorrect.

 

[Curtis]

How exactly can someone who is dead bring themselves back to life?

Jesus said......

Joh 10:17 “The Father has an intense love for me because I freely give my own life—to raise it up again.
Joh 10:18 I surrender my own life, and no one has the power to take my life from me. I have the authority to lay it down and the power to take it back again. This is the destiny my Father has set before me.”(TPT)

 

[Butch5]

Jesus said......

Joh 10:17 “The Father has an intense love for me because I freely give my own life—to raise it up again.
Joh 10:18 I surrender my own life, and no one has the power to take my life from me. I have the authority to lay it down and the power to take it back again. This is the destiny my Father has set before me.”(TPT)

I know what He said. I'm asking you how someone who is dead can raise themselves back to life?

 

[QuestionIt]

I know what He said. I'm asking you how someone who is dead can raise themselves back to life?

They CAN'T.