Lazarus and the Rich man...

[Rhema]

When a apostle dies has no bearing on the matter.

Well Garee, if he's dead, he can't write an epistle, now can he....

But others can write an epistle and put the dead man's name on it, can't he ....

Do you really think that 3rd Corinthians was actually written by Paul because it says so ??

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

The book of Revelation gives us information. Not meant to instill fear.

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.​

(Revelation 22:18-19 KJV)​

The book of Revelation gives us information. Not meant to instill fear.

Yeah, right.

Rhema

 

[Garee]

I note that you are from the UK... women cannot have wives over there ??

Rhema

Woman are wives. Men are husbands. Different commandments for each.

What's wrong with we are friends of the same gender?

 

[Rhema]

Jesus said no sign is given

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:​

(Acts 2:22 KJV)​

Signs were given, Garee...

Rhema

 

[Garee]

Well Garee, if he's dead, he can't write an epistle, now can he....

But others can write an epistle and put the dead man's name on it, can't he ....

Do you really think that 3rd Corinthians was actually written by Paul because it says so ??

Rhema

3rd Corinthians??? Mans name?

yes, I am not sure just who were the holy moved men to write it down . Do you know who was it penned by?

In the end it makes no difference who he moves. we can plant the in corruptible seed and another water it with the water of the words as the doctrines of God that fall from heaven We are considered as nothing. He who is not served by human hands in any way shape or form must cause the increase a work of His faith (let there be and it was Good) or called a labor of his love

1 Corinthians 3:7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

 

[Bug]

I note that you are from the UK... women cannot have wives over there ??

Rhema

you're lesbian?

 

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I note that you are from the UK... women cannot have wives over there ??

Rhema

Hello there, @Rhema,

Yes, but I have not adjusted to the change I'm afraid. Husband and wife has always referred to male and female in my world. It would be better if each refer to the other as a 'Partner' if in fact the spouse is of the same gender I feel.

Forgive me for inadvertently venturing into a very private area of your life. What gender category someone fits into is their business, and should remain a private matter.
My enquiry was not intended to be personal, but was asked with the intention of understanding you better, that is all.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Sue D.]

For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.​

(Revelation 22:18-19 KJV)​

Yeah, right.

Rhema

There are groups that add "The Pearl of Great Price" to God's Word to make it ' more complete'. And The Watch Tower is a magazine put out by a group for the same purpose.

God's Word is to stand alone. No o one is to subtract from or add to it.

Maybe a person doesn't like what portions say but that's our problem not God's. We need to line up our lives in accordance to His Word. No one lives a perfect life. But we are to live as Christ-like as we can.

 

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'And many other signs truly did Jesus
in the presence of His disciples,
which are not written in this book:
But these are written,
that ye might believe
that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God;
and that believing ye might have life through His name.'
(Joh 20:30-31)

Hello there @Sue D. and co.,

This discussion as to what is included or excluded from Scripture reminds me of what John says in John 20 (above), when he gave his reason for including what he did in the gospel that he wrote. The Bible is essentially a book of redemption, isn't it? The fulfillment of the promise of Genesis 3:15; following the passage of the promised seed to the birth of Christ, and recording the strategy of the enemy in the attempt to thwart God's purpose, and of God's victory in the life, death and resurrection of His Son, in reconciling the world unto Himself.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Sue D.]

@ complete - yes , totally agree with that verse in John that you included.

 

[Sue D.]

I'm curious as to why gender and marital status should be a private personal matter.

Babies are born every day and are either male or femàle. A guy and gal getting engaged is a very happy time -. An engagement ring and bridal shower and all. And a wedding with friends and family. The only part that would be private 'private' is what goes to behind closed doors.

 

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I'm curious as to why gender and marital status should be a private personal matter.

Babies are born every day and are either male or femàle. A guy and gal getting engaged is a very happy time -. An engagement ring and bridal shower and all. And a wedding with friends and family. The only part that would be private 'private' is what goes to behind closed doors.

'Marriage is honourable in all,
and the bed undefiled:'
(Heb 13:4a)

Hi @Sue D.

It is probably a result of upbringing, the do's and dont's learned at a Mother's knee. We were told what was polite and what was not, and asking questions of a personal nature was not encouraged.

Gender is not a subject to be avoided, I agree, but relationship takes us further, into the realm of what is private and personal, and not open to the scrutiny of others.

Just thoughts, Sue, just thoughts.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Sue D.]

Well some more thoughts+- I'm 70 -- it's only been in the past couple of years or so that all the gender stuff has come up. And , honestly, it's only been on This thread that the sexist thing has come up. When a person becomes that sensitive about being asked if they're a man or woman-- since this is all written so that we can't see the person. 99 percent of the time it doesn't make any difference -- it's all just conversation. And when we're out and about shopping or going to a party or church -- well -- I'm conscious of being around either another wan or a man. It's human nature. God created us as sociable people and given guidelines for interacting. Mostly we don't even think about our interactions -- it's just being sociable.

 

[Sue D.]

Well Garee, if he's dead, he can't write an epistle, now can he....

But others can write an epistle and put the dead man's name on it, can't he ....

Do you really think that 3rd Corinthians was actually written by Paul because it says so ??

Rhema

Where do you get a 3 Rd Corinthians from. 1&2 ,yes but not a third.

 

[Rhema]

3rd Corinthians??? Mans name?

3rd Corinthians 1

1. Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, unto the brethren which are in Corinth, greeting. 2. Being in the midst of many tribulations, I do not marvel if the teachings of the evil one spread quickly. 3. For my Lord Jesus Christ will hasten his coming, and will set at nought them that falsify his words.​

... etc.

(trans. M. R. James 1924)

Duh....

Where do you get a 3 Rd Corinthians from. 1&2 ,yes but not a third.

(Well, so much for knowledge....)

I gather then that you never heard of the Didache or the Shepherd of Hermas either.

Rhema

Since this is rather off point of the OP, please feel free to start a thread.

Do you know who was it penned by?

Garee, do you know who penned the book of Hebrews?

(Answer - nobody... NOBODY knows. But it sure wasn't Paul.)

 

[Rhema]

Forgive me for inadvertently venturing into a very private area of your life.

Nothing to forgive, ma'am. My point was that gender doesn't (and shouldn't) matter at all regarding the facts and the reasoning behind a particular viewpoint of doctrine.

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

you're lesbian?

You can't let people ask questions ??

(Guess not since you want to shut me up.)

Rhema

Why not add something of significance to the conversation?

 

[Garee]

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:​

(Acts 2:22 KJV)​

Signs were given, Garee...

Rhema

Sings of times things going on as they have from the beginning Noah's day

yes the last was in respect to comparing The Son of man Jesus to the son of man Jonas .Jesus di the will of the father that worked in with delight .Jonas was dragged al the way and after precaching the gospel desired to die. he knew God would have mercy or he woud not moved him in the first place


Matthew 12:39
But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas:

3rd Corinthians 1

1. Paul, a prisoner of Jesus Christ, unto the brethren which are in Corinth, greeting. 2. Being in the midst of many tribulations, I do not marvel if the teachings of the evil one spread quickly. 3. For my Lord Jesus Christ will hasten his coming, and will set at nought them that falsify his words.... etc.

(trans. M. R. James 1924)

Duh....

LOL Duh.

Where so we find this extra 3rd Corinthians ? Is it after the book or chapter of Revelation ?

There is a 2nd Corinthians 1.

We are made aware of the wile of the devil . In effect saying "Did God really say there in no 3rd Corinthians"?

 

[Garee]

Where do you get a 3 Rd Corinthians from. 1&2 ,yes but not a third.

Its a secret.

 

[Sue D.]

@Rhema - I googled the two items you shared. The Shepherd of Hermas is a Christian literary work of the late 1st half of the second century. Considered a valuable book by many Christians and canonical scripture by some of the early church -- Wikipedia.

And the Didache -- also known as The teachings / the teachings of the twelve apostles / the Lord's teachings through the 12 apostles to the nations. It is an enigmatic , primitive church document describing early church ethics, practice and order. Wikipedia and it didn't meet the criteria for the scriptural cabin established by the church council.

That is what I found.