Lazarus and the Rich man...

[Sue D.]

The Bible is God's Word.

Don't owe you an apology for anything.

Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
He died on the cross for our sins, was buried and rose again. On the 3rd day. According to Scripture."

That's 1Corinthians 15:1-4.

And then Romans 10:9-10. Belief in your heart and confession unto salvation.

 

[Sue D.]

@Rhema -- it's sad that you feel threatened by that comment. God wants to be our heavenly Father -- He wants us to have relationship with Him made possible through / by Jesus Christ. The belief in our heart,

 

[th1bill]

Hell-o Rhema, Sue D is a woman whose faith, like mine, is based on faith and sometimes in spite of what others think to be fact. There are also some very important points, any good Christian, Protestant or Catholic, will not drag through the mud for nothing more than "mental exercise."

Folks of Faith have, all, been touched by Ruach, a.k.a. the Holy Spirit, and we have experienced the work He does in the Faithful's Lives. These Miracles, major and/or minor, are all the proof we need. From reading your posts I have, right or wrong, determined you do not operate on the Basis of Faith, alone. That is a sad thing to me because, as I understand, from the last thirty years of study, no man or woman can enter the Kingdom without the Indwelling of Ruach.

Having an Eighth Grade Education and a GED from the Military, no man can throw Seminary and False Teachers at me. The first Miracle experienced, minor in retrospect though major to me, was the complete understanding, I thought, of the Word of God. I walked away from the stage that night, picked up my copy of the KJV. It fell open to Isa. 53 and I knew it was the story of Yashua ha'Mashiah, told a few hundred years before He walked the Earth in Human Form.

This to some is dismissed for an assortment of reasons. I will even concede that this can be considered a Minor Event in the face of Creation and the Parting of the Red Sea for Israel. In the life of this Christian, it is a life turning event that was the forerunner of a series of events that continually reassure me of the Truth of YHWH's Word.

It is my prayer that you come to discover that Faith that never fails.

 

[Rhema]

Don't owe you an apology for anything.

I put quotes around "you white people". Because those were your words.

Sue, I checked each and EVERY post I made in this entire thread, and I NEVER said those words.

You lied.

But Baptists lie all the time and never apologize. Thank you for proving my point.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Hell-o Rhema, Sue D is a woman whose faith, like mine, is based on faith

Does this mean that you lie as well ??

Rhema

 

[Sue D.]

Rhema -- you have no reason to display the attitude you do.

Even if you did find the post I'm talking about I don't think you'd admit and shoe that post.

And no reason to display such a negative attitude towards Baptist people or that denomination.

 

[th1bill]

Sue, I checked each and EVERY post I made in this entire thread, and I NEVER said those words.

You lied.

But Baptists lie all the time and never apologize. Thank you for proving my point.

Rhema

I am a Baptist Teacher and your ill-considered Blanket statement has you, the perpetrator of the greatest and most successful False Religion the world has ever known, calling this Old Fossil a Liar? You do not need to tell me, Sue D, Reba, nor many other Friends, Sons, and Daughters of |The Most High that every Church Association is full of Deceitful False Teachers and Pew Whales, we know it. Every person that has the Spiritual Gift, Ruach, is confronted on any day there is Service occurring in any House of God with these people known as the Local Mission Field.

But you are dumb enough to call every one of us Liars? Oh weak one, you need Ruach.

 

[Rhema]

Rhema -- you have no reason to display the attitude you do.

Any sane person would display the attitude I have, especially when one's character has been assassinated by having words put in his mouth. Had I done that to you, all hell would have broken loose. But you lied dear one, and can't even bring yourself to admit it.

Even if you did find the post I'm talking about I don't think you'd admit and shoe that post.

I know what I said, and within the context it was meant. You lied, putting words I never wrote in quotation marks, and you did so on purpose, because you said you did. And what does the Baptist do? Apologize? (Nay... Never.) Rather you impugn my character even further by prophesying that I would "shoe" (whatever the heck that means) my post. Whatever post you're talking about (and you're free to go find it) I never said QUOTE you white people QUOTE. I did say I'm more white than you by lineage, half Scottish, half Nazi. But you also denigrated the culture of my Chinese wife. (Should I go find that post?)

I stand by each and every post I make, Sue, carefully choosing my words to make a specific point. I provide facts presented in a reasonable manner backed up by scripture and linguistics. Again, all I've seen from you is a blather of your own personal opinions, bias and bigotry (your words show it, ma'am, even if you can't see it), where you ignore the hard questions I've asked.

But I readily admit it was my bad to think that you could enter into a meaningful conversation.

And no reason to display such a negative attitude towards Baptist people or that denomination.

There's reason enough found in each and every interaction I've had with every Baptist over the past 50 years. They always leave a bad taste in one's mouth. And you have not disappointed.

But if you've deigned to read this far, I shall leave you with one last question that I know you'll never even try to answer.

How can you forgive a debt that's been paid?

Godspeed,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

your ill-considered Blanket statement has you, ...

Chuckle...

Your ill-considered reading has you making accusations that are unfounded.

Here's what I said -

But Baptists lie all the time and never apologize.

And here's what you think I said - But ALL Baptists lie all the time....

Please try and read what I actually write. It would truly help you make less mistakes.

I've not met all Baptists on the planet, but the ones I've met lie all the time.

I am a Baptist Teacher

I've read a number of your posts, sir, where you present yourself as a mongrel... but now you're a Baptist Teacher?? ... in an AOG church ??

Chuckle!!! I'm a Charismatic, non-systematic, non-denominational Theologically Eclectic Mongrel,

Sir, with all due respect, I think you're very confused, and I don't intend to incline an ear to very confused people.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Oh weak one, you need Ruach.

Again with the insults and threats...
(Maybe you are a Baptist...)

 

[complete]

'For the word of God is quick, and powerful,
and sharper than any twoedged sword,
piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit,
and of the joints and marrow,
and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in His sight:
but all things are naked and opened
unto the eyes of Him with Whom we have to do.'
(Heb 4:12-13)

This thread has degenerated into something which is far from God honouring.

Please stop.

 

[Sue D.]

@complete -- totally agree with you.

Rhema is very intelligent and feels thr right / need to tear into others. For some reason particularly Baptists.

Ready to move on to more uplifting conversation.

 

[Rhema]

This thread has degenerated into something which is far from God honouring.

Please stop.

And as one can see, @Sue D. thinks she had absolutely no part in that. She just continued on insulting me.

The expression of my experience with Baptists remains intact.

Rhema

 

[Sue D.]

Well Rhema you've done a great deal of that to me.

So let's just drop this whole thing.

And no need to follow me to another thread.

 

[th1bill]

And as one can see, @Sue D. thinks she had absolutely no part in that. She just continued on insulting me.

The expression of my experience with Baptists remains intact.

Rhema

As I tried and, I guess, failed to express properly, I know not the assembly Sue D attends, but I am struck that she is a Christian and does not follow some Baptist, Pentecostal, Catholic or other Religion invented by man.

 

[Sue D.]

@th1bill. -- your right in that I'm a Christian and I Am a Baptist. A conservative Baptist. Always have been.

 

[th1bill]

@th1bill. -- your right in that I'm a Christian and I Am a Baptist. A conservative Baptist. Always have been.

I am a Christian attending a Baptist Fellowship Congregation because that is where the Spirit of YHWH led me to serve.

 

[Sue D.]

Sounds good. Go where you feel led to go. God's Word is taught and missions supported.

 

[complete]

Friends this story is not a parable. Jesus did not use names of real people in parables. We know Lazarus was a real man. This story is true. Human souls go to the 3rd heaven where heaven and hell are located. They are separated by a huge chasm type river barrier but in one area the people can see each other. The communication is telepathic. This barrier is called 'Styx'. We learn this in the Book of Enoch, who of which was Noah's grandfather, and Enoch was 7th from Adam.

And besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, so that they who would pass from here to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from there.’
Luke 16:26

This was a true story and the Rich man is still burning today...

Hello DieAmartyr,

In Matthew 15:3 & 6, and Mark 7:9 & 13, the Lord Jesus told the Scribes and Pharisees that they transgress or reject the commandment of God by their tradition, making the commandment of God of none-effect, that they may keep their tradition. The Lord Jesus Christ also told His disciples to 'Beware of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees' in Matthew 16:11-12, It was their 'tradition' and their 'doctrine' that the Lord Jesus endeavoured to expose by the telling of this proverb, or form of divine irony. For the testimony of Scripture concerning the state of the dead denies the claim that this was a true story. For the dead, we are told are silent in the grave, and 'his thoughts perish': 'the dead know not any thing'.

'The dead praise not the LORD,
neither any that go down into silence.'
(Psa 115:17)

'His breath goeth forth,
he returneth to his earth;
in that very day his thoughts perish.'
(Psa 146:4)

'For the living know that they shall die:
but the dead know not any thing,
neither have they any more a reward;
for the memory of them is forgotten.'
(Ecc 9:5)

* How sad that those who profess to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ do not take heed to the Lord's warning to 'BEWARE': but instead embrace the doctrines of the Pharisees portrayed in that story of, 'The Rich Man and Lazarus', and that of spiritism in regard to this subject of the state of the dead.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Sue D.]

@complete -- you commented about that episode is a doctrine of the Pharisees

Whena person dies , the body like we hav now gradually starts to decay. And it's true that a physically dead person can't hear or see anything. But the 'real' person the soul is still alive and conscious of what's going on.

So yes, we Do need to Beware. There is a very real eternity in each person's future. What are we doing Now. The rich man realized too late and wanted 'someone' to warn his brothers so they could avoid his fate.

Same goes for today. Do we heed or ignore or put off a decision until 'tomorrow'.