Mid-tribulation

[David777]

Hello Eric.

I was reading your post, you said:

Therefore, God will give the ,Antichrist the crown of leadership
in the Christian nations as indicated in Revelation 6:2.

This is what Revelations 6:2 states:

1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard
one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.”

2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow;
and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Could you explain Eric just how you derived that the AC leads the Christian nations?

 

[lecoop]

That's why the actions of the whitehorse are the actions of the global occult elite as in the false-flag attack on the trade-centres that created the white horse.

That's right! GOD would never do that, but scripture is trying to tell you this is what has happened.

911, was an inside job, now the forces of the west are entrenched in the mid east and eventual war is inevidable. This is all part of the build up to the tribulation, which was the prophetic role of the horseman of Dan.

The horseman are the pivitol events of the Occult prior to the Tribulation, the peace treaty of 7yrs between Jew and Arab will cross us over into that time, meanwhile the horsemen keep riding, playing the enslavement terrorism card, stealing public taxes, and ultimately depopulation and matial law in the west.

Let's back up a few steps and think about this. First we have a scroll, or book, sealed with 7 seals. I am convinced this is the paperwork for the title deed or lease document to planet earth. This scroll is the KEY to geting Satan out of the way as god of this world, and restoring it back into the hands of God. (Which happens at the 7th trumpet.)

So when a seal is broken, a corresponding event takes place. I don't see that horses and riders as REAL horses and riders: they are meant to represent something. In other words, they are the very creation of our Heavenly father. We are talking about symbolism. Symbolism from the mind of our Father. Each color is to represent something.

Now, from Genesis to maps, from the beginning of time to the end of time, God has ALWAYS associated WHITE with righteousness. John used the color white I think 17 other times - each time to represent righteousness. There is simply NO POSSIBLE WAY the white horse and rider and represent ANYTHING else but righteousness.

When one learns the correct and intended TIMING of the white horse and rider, then righteousness makes sense. HOW to determine the timing? It is right there in chapters 4 and 5.

Your timing of the horses are about 2000 years off.

Coop

 

[lecoop]

I was reading your post, you said:

Therefore, God will give the ,Antichrist the crown of leadership
in the Christian nations as indicated in Revelation 6:2.

This is what Revelations 6:2 states:

1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard
one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.”

2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow;
and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Could you explain Eric just how you derived that the AC leads the Christian nations?

David, what is written here in red, is mostly MYTH. I wouldn't give it a second thought.

Yes, the Antichrist WILL be given authority, 42 months given to him by God, but authority over the kingdoms of the world by Satan Himself. Will there be any "Christian" nations after the rapture? Not a chance. Perhaps in name only.

Coop

 

[lecoop]

Revelation 6:1–2 KJV
6 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Second Thessalonians 2 explains that everyone who hears but does not believe the truth of the gospel of Jesus before the rapture will

believe the lie of Antichrist. This is because God will send them strong delusion. Therefore, God will give the Antichrist the crown of

leadership in the Christian nations, as indicated in Revelation 6:2. The Antichrist will sign a treaty with many that divides the land of

Israel and supposedly brings lasting peace. The Antichrist will come on a white horse as a peace enforcer when Egypt and Syria break the

peace treaty as described in Daniel 11:40–43a below.

The Antichrist on the White Horse

Daniel 11:40–43 KJV
40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt:

Daniel informs us that the king of the south will push at or attack the Antichrist. This represents Egypt attacking the Antichrist, who will

have divided the land. The king of Syria from north of Israel will also attack the Antichrist.

You may wonder how I concluded that Egypt and Syria will attack the Antichrist. The king of Egypt from the south and the king of Assyria

from the north are first mentioned in the first half of this chapter. They will be the same countries later in the chapter, but later in time.

The Antichrist on a white horse? NOT!!!! Of course the Antichrist would LOVE to paint himself white, as a disguise. But this vision and symbolism is coming from GOD. Sorry, but the first horse is NOT the Antichrist. You are off in timing by about 2000 years.

Coop

 

[lecoop]

lecoop


I can give you scriptures where we are told to consider or count. God certainly number a set of trumpets. A trumpet is the start or end of event, or a series of trumpets.

God never said count trumpets, God counted them for us. It's us in our own natural ability wanting to understand something spiritual.

So, Give me scripture where God said consider the trumpets, counting them to track events?

I said before, we don't NEED to count them! God already did! I don't understand your thinking here at all.

White always means righteous.......

So we have one good horse, and some bad horses? Or do we have all color to bring the word of the Lord to pass?

RIGHT!!!! Finally someone has gotten it right!! The first horse RIDES ALONE. The other three ride together. Or did you not read that?

Jdg 5:10 Speak, ye that ride on white asses, ye that sit in judgment, and walk by the way.

These good guys, or bad guys?

That is in a song. Who knows? Were there white asses in the great battle? I don't know. None were mentioned. However, this is not prophecy. It is a song of victory.

Num 12:10 And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam became leprous, white as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, she was leprous.

Being Leprous righteous?

Is snow white? Is the white paint whereby we can paint things and make them white? There are REAL things that are white. This is not prophecy. It is the real look of leprosy.

Ecc 9:8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.

could there be a difference between White Garment, and White animal?

White represents no spot in certain context. It's not limited to just righteousness, but also described plague, and specks, and color of animals. It was used to describe teeth once.

Certainly there could. Some horses are white in the natural.

What always means what again? Righteousness? You have that scripture for me?

OK, let's limit ourselves to Revelation:

Revelation 1:14
His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;

Revelation 2:17
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

Revelation 3:4
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Revelation 3:18
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

Revelation 4:4
And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

Revelation 6:2
And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Revelation 6:11
And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Revelation 7:9
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Revelation 7:13
And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

Revelation 7:14
And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

Revelation 14:14
And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Revelation 15:6
And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles.

Revelation 19:8
And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Revelation 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

Revelation 19:14
And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

Revelation 20:11
And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

Here is WHITE used 17 times in Revelation. EACH time it is to represent righteousness. When God uses white for symbolism it ALWAYS will represent righteousness.

your pride makes me feel that I should be involved with this confusing thread. Trust me, you don't want that.

I do want your scripture that says White always means righteousness though. According to rule 7 of the forum, please provide scripture when making a biblical point.

I just gave you 17. Is that enough?

Why do you accuse me of having pride? Before the Lord taught me in Revelation I knew NOTHING. Outside of what He has taught me, I still know NOTHING. If you look at my posts, I usually include a LOT of scripture.

Please, join this thread if you wish. I will agree, there is much here that is confusing.

Coop

 

[rodd]

Let's back up a few steps and think about this. First we have a scroll, or book, sealed with 7 seals. I am convinced this is the paperwork for the title deed or lease document to planet earth. This scroll is the KEY to geting Satan out of the way as god of this world, and restoring it back into the hands of God. (Which happens at the 7th trumpet.)

So when a seal is broken, a corresponding event takes place. I don't see that horses and riders as REAL horses and riders: they are meant to represent something. In other words, they are the very creation of our Heavenly father. We are talking about symbolism. Symbolism from the mind of our Father. Each color is to represent something.

Now, from Genesis to maps, from the beginning of time to the end of time, God has ALWAYS associated WHITE with righteousness. John used the color white I think 17 other times - each time to represent righteousness. There is simply NO POSSIBLE WAY the white horse and rider and represent ANYTHING else but righteousness.

When one learns the correct and intended TIMING of the white horse and rider, then righteousness makes sense. HOW to determine the timing? It is right there in chapters 4 and 5.

Your timing of the horses are about 2000 years off.

Coop

You must live in fantasy land or Disney, look at the world around you, the evidence is real and its in!!!
The whitehorse spells of falsehood and tretchery.
Happening in plain sight, you must be blind!

 

[lecoop]

You must live in fantasy land or Disney, look at the world around you, the evidence is real and its in!!!
The whitehorse spells of falsehood and tretchery.
Happening in plain sight, you must be blind!

OF COURSE we are surrounded by falsehood and treachery! And very soon, wars. But to associate it with a symbolic white horse that was sent out 2000 years ago? No, you are associating these days with the wrong thing.

Now, please, find me ONE WORD of the description that would give us even a hint that the white horse and rider did NOT represent righteousness. That is if you can.

Or show us how you tie what you see to day to that horse.

Did the FIRST readers think the white horse meant what you are saying today?

Again, we cannot pull that horse and rider OUT OF CONTEXT!
The context is always KEY. IF you go back and read the end of chapter 5, THAT is the context of the seals. Can you tell us the timing of the end of chapter 5?

Coop

 

[kevinlb63]

The Language of the Church is completely missing from the time of Rev.

There were saints in the OT also, but the Church we have gospel of Christ, Brothers, Children of God. People take one word "Saints" and ignore everything else. They count trumpets, days, numbers, in attempts to put something spiritual into a Natural mess.

God tell us to count trumpets?? We are told when to count something, but we need to get it sorted like some book or file system, so we count away things, not even counted.

One Angel sounded the Gospel, "Where is the Church?"

The White horse, the rider had a bow, the Pope, his cross is a bow, he rides in a white car, to the natural man, good enough for him, forgetting that the Roman Catholic Church lost all power, and certainly not in any position to do much of anything.

Jesus Is Lord.

this is for Brother Mike i have come to a conclusion you! have lost your every loven mind if you think the roman vatican has lost its power! where do you think all!!!! all!!! of the goverments go to for advice about war and other thing about goverment! pope john paul II even went to the dome! of the rock and threw water on the ground and said Quote this ground is now holly!!and he went and met with the islamic leaders there and adopted! the islamic nation into the catholic church!! these things i say are documented fact look it up if you would like!! that my friend is power!!!and by the way The White horse, and the rider the Pope, the bow it is talking about is a rain bow! go to Genesis 9 <SUP id=en-KJV-219 class=versenum>13</SUP>I do set my{ bow} in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. The pope at one time or another he will! ride a white horse and wear a fake rainbow on his head. he even may have in the past already do it!!! thay have been more than one pope! he is right now trying to get control of the banks of the world! on oct 24 2011 the G20 summit the Vatican council proposed a Global financial authorth! it is in the works right now .
pay more attention to what is going on around you!!!!! end of subject. sorry i just get ill at lunicy when i see it!
i know it is wrong to get ill but when someone says that the roman church does not have any power. that comment is lunicy and i think chad will agree.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

I was reading your post, you said:

Therefore, God will give the ,Antichrist the crown of leadership
in the Christian nations as indicated in Revelation 6:2.

This is what Revelations 6:2 states:

1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard
one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, “Come and see.”

2 And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow;
and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.

Could you explain Eric just how you derived that the AC leads the Christian nations?

Notice that he is given the crown in Revelation 6:2. It happens in 2Thessalonians 2:7-12 when God causes every person that has heard the truth of the gospel and rejected Jesus to believe the lie of antichrist. Most of the people in America have heard the gospel.

 

[Eric E Stahl]

The Antichrist on a white horse? NOT!!!! Of course the Antichrist would LOVE to paint himself white, as a disguise. But this vision and symbolism is coming from GOD. Sorry, but the first horse is NOT the Antichrist. You are off in timing by about 2000 years.

Coop

The antichrist always imitates what Jesus will do. He is the great deceiver. Through history victorious generals would come riding a white horse. So will the antichrist.

 

[rodd]

OF COURSE we are surrounded by falsehood and treachery! And very soon, wars. But to associate it with a symbolic white horse that was sent out 2000 years ago? No, you are associating these days with the wrong thing.

Now, please, find me ONE WORD of the description that would give us even a hint that the white horse and rider did NOT represent righteousness. That is if you can.

Or show us how you tie what you see to day to that horse.

Did the FIRST readers think the white horse meant what you are saying today?

Again, we cannot pull that horse and rider OUT OF CONTEXT!
The context is always KEY. IF you go back and read the end of chapter 5, THAT is the context of the seals. Can you tell us the timing of the end of chapter 5?

Coop

I suppose to you the rider with the bow would also represents righteousness ??? He obviously doesn't, does he!
Put two and two together and, YES!, we have a contradiction, why?,
because its a symbol of deception.

Why is it now time you ask? Because its linked to all the other goings on and is end time as in final generation prophecy, it's linked to the final seal which all comes to pass in that final generation Christ spoke of in Matt 24.

Since the white horse rode we've experienced the red (bloodshed) and now the financial one the Black, which is about to get much worse.
The Pale is on its way and people will die, that's the scripture.

 

[lecoop]

Let's back up a few steps and think about this. First we have a scroll, or book, sealed with 7 seals. I am convinced this is the paperwork for the title deed or lease document to planet earth. This scroll is the KEY to geting Satan out of the way as god of this world, and restoring it back into the hands of God. (Which happens at the 7th trumpet.)

So when a seal is broken, a corresponding event takes place. I don't see that horses and riders as REAL horses and riders: they are meant to represent something. In other words, they are the very creation of our Heavenly father. We are talking about symbolism. Symbolism from the mind of our Father. Each color is to represent something.

Now, from Genesis to maps, from the beginning of time to the end of time, God has ALWAYS associated WHITE with righteousness. John used the color white I think 17 other times - each time to represent righteousness. There is simply NO POSSIBLE WAY the white horse and rider and represent ANYTHING else but righteousness.

When one learns the correct and intended TIMING of the white horse and rider, then righteousness makes sense. HOW to determine the timing? It is right there in chapters 4 and 5.

Your timing of the horses are about 2000 years off.

Coop

Readers, Rodd, Eric, Kevin, Mike,

I was corrected on what I wrote here. I am speaking of the part highlighted in red. Brother Mike was kind enough to point out some verses using white that were NOT meaning righteousness, such as Miriam's hand being leprous and white as snow.

Therefore I stand corrected. Of course there are natural things that are white, such as natural horses that really are white in color. Remember Ben-Hur? I was not meaning natural things that are white. Of course God does not lie, and if something is naturally white He will say it. I was meaning symbolism. Please allow me to rephrase:

Now, from Genesis to maps, from the beginning of time to the end of time, when God wishes to associate a color with righteousness, it will always be white.

2 Chronicles 5:12
Also the Levites which were the singers, all of them of Asaph, of Heman, of Jeduthun, with their sons and their brethren, being arrayed in white linen, having cymbals and psalteries and harps, stood at the east end of the altar, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets

Psalm 51:7
Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

Ecclesiastes 9:8
Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Lamentations 4:7
Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Daniel 7:9
I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

Daniel 11:35
And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Matthew 17:2
And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.

Matthew 28:3
His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:

Mark 9:3
And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

Luke 9:29
And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.

In each of these, white is to represent righteousness. God could have chosen any color under the sun to appear as when He was glorified: but He chose white.

Coop

 

[lecoop]

I suppose to you the rider with the bow would also represents righteousness ??? He obviously doesn't, does he!
Put two and two together and, YES!, we have a contradiction, why?,
because its a symbol of deception.

Why is it now time you ask? Because its linked to all the other goings on and is end time as in final generation prophecy, it's linked to the final seal which all comes to pass in that final generation Christ spoke of in Matt 24.

Since the white horse rode we've experienced the red (bloodshed) and now the financial one the Black, which is about to get much worse.
The Pale is on its way and people will die, that's the scripture.

Rodd, please realize this book was written almost 2000 years ago, and had to have some meaning to those people there. In fact, the same exact meaning for us as for them and for them as for us. God had ONE intended meaning. It is up to us to determine it.

Now imagine yourself as reading this back when John first wrote it. What would the white horse have represented to THEM?

First, as I said, there is not one word, not one jot or tittle giving us ANY HINT that this white horse is to be associated with the Antichrist or with evil of any kind. That is just as bad as trying to associate the "last trump" with the 7th trump. NEITHER ONE WILL WORK!

John used the color white 16 more times, and EACH TIME to represent righteousness! If you notice, when God chose a color for the Antichrist, HE painted him fiery red! Now why would John use white for evil as you imagine, when he used it 16 other times for righteousness? That makes no sense.

"He obviously doesn't, does he!" OF COURSE he does!

I asked you again and again to consider the CONTEXT. But you have TOTALLY IGNORED it.

Let's back up and get the context, shall we?

I will do exactly what the Holy Spirit did with me. He asked me three questions I could not answer, about chapters 4 & 5.

1) WHY was Jesus not at the right hand of the Father when John first saw into the throne room? (The vision was in 95 AD.) Jesus should have been there in 95 AD. HE WOULD have been there, at the Father's right hand in 95 AD. We have maybe a dozen verses TELLING us He would be there.

2) Why was "no man found" in this search John saw end in failure, for one worthy to break the seals? (in 95 AD, surely Jesus would have been found worthy!

3) Why was the Holy Spirit there IN the throne room, when Jesus said He would send Him down as soon as He went up?

Of course there is a small link from the first seal to the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, because they are all on horses.

I asked you this before too: did you not notice that one horse rides ALONE and three ride together? This is a CLUE.

Sorry, but it has been the RED HORSE that has caused unending wars. Blood is red.

I am 65 years old. I have heard of famines in Africa for my entire life. I am convinced they had famines long before I was born too. That has been the work of the black horse.

Remember the kids game, "ring around the rosey, pocket full of poseys, ashes ashes ,we all fall down. That was a good representation of the BLACK PLAGUE that killed about 30% of all people in Europe! That was the work of the pale horse.

These horses began when the seals were broken, as soon as Jesus ascended into the throne room. They have been riding ever since.
Three ride together, but one rides alone. It is written.

Now, what entity on earth was righteous before God when Christ ascended into heaven?

Who was commanded to go and make disciples? WHERE were they to go? WHO would be trying to stop them?

Coop

 

[lecoop]

Notice that he is given the crown in Revelation 6:2. It happens in 2Thessalonians 2:7-12 when God causes every person that has heard the truth of the gospel and rejected Jesus to believe the lie of antichrist. Most of the people in America have heard the gospel.

Rev 6:2
<sup class="versenum" id="en-KJV-30796">2</sup>And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Please, so us SOMETHING here that would identify this as the Antichrist?

I am sorry, Eric, but your theory is myth. That is only human imagination. This is NOT the Antichrist, for several reasons! We can get into each reason tomorrow. First,the antichrist was not revealed in 32 AD. He is colored WHITE by our Heavenly Father. In Rev. 18 we see the color of the Antichrist: fiery red!

SOMEONE gets a crown, but it is surely NOT the Antichrist: NOT in 32 AD.

Coop

 

[Brother Mike]

White.

Of course there are natural things that are white, such as natural horses that really are white in color. Remember Ben-Hur? I was not meaning natural things that are white. Of course God does not lie, and if something is naturally white He will say it. I was meaning symbolism. Please allow me to rephrase:

Thank you brother, White does certainly signify clean in some cases of the bible, clear and pure. White robes washed in the blood of the Lamb.

We just need to be careful when teaching others when we use words like (Always) The only thing it means, or this means, just this. It may be nit picking, but then again, God's word is perfect, and we are just learning.



Your all blessed and Jesus Is Lord.

 

[lecoop]

The antichrist always imitates what Jesus will do. He is the great deceiver. Through history victorious generals would come riding a white horse. So will the antichrist.

I agree, in part: the Antichrist will imitate Christ. But he will NOT come literally on a white horse. Neither is Rev. 6:2 about him at ALL.

PLEASE show us some tiny hint at least, that shows you the white horse is to represent the antichrist.

But you cannot, because God NEVER meant for the white horse to represent the Antichrist. God used a fiery red dragon for that!

Please understand, these horses are SYMBOLISM. The white horse in Rev. 19 is REAL.

Coop

 

[lecoop]

this is for Brother Mike i have come to a conclusion you! have lost your every loven mind if you think the roman vatican has lost its power! where do you think all!!!! all!!! of the goverments go to for advice about war and other thing about goverment! pope john paul II even went to the dome! of the rock and threw water on the ground and said Quote this ground is now holly!!and he went and met with the islamic leaders there and adopted! the islamic nation into the catholic church!! these things i say are documented fact look it up if you would like!! that my friend is power!!!and by the way The White horse, and the rider the Pope, the bow it is talking about is a rain bow! go to Genesis 9 <sup id="en-KJV-219" class="versenum">13</sup>I do set my{ bow} in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth. The pope at one time or another he will! ride a white horse and wear a fake rainbow on his head. he even may have in the past already do it!!! thay have been more than one pope! he is right now trying to get control of the banks of the world! on oct 24 2011 the G20 summit the Vatican council proposed a Global financial authorth! it is in the works right now .
pay more attention to what is going on around you!!!!! end of subject. sorry i just get ill at lunicy when i see it!
i know it is wrong to get ill but when someone says that the roman church does not have any power. that comment is lunicy and i think chad will agree.

That's it Kevin! Get FIRED UP!! Did you know, Jesus took a Catholic lady to hell, so she could come back and write about it - and Jesus showed her that Pope in hell. I would show you the link, but we cannot do that. Jesus also told her WHY the Pope was in hell. I think you would like to read that story. It is so sad that he ended up there. He had every chance to go to heaven. She also saw someone else very popular there.

Coop

 

[lecoop]

You must live in fantasy land or Disney, look at the world around you, the evidence is real and its in!!!
The whitehorse spells of falsehood and tretchery.
Happening in plain sight, you must be blind!

I am not blind. I am very well aware for what is happening around us. But did you not read what Paul said MUST happen first before the man of sin is revealed? Rod, WE ARE NOT THERE YET. NO ONE will know who is is until AFTER the Bride is taken out of the world.

And again, you are associating bad things with the white horse, and that is NOT what God intended. PLEASE, show us SOME SMALL hint of a word about his description that would lead you to associate him with the Antichrist. Your theory is simply impossible.

For example: will the Antichrist get authority over the entire world, as the word of God says, or will he be limited, say to the Middle East?

Coop

 

[Brother Mike]

Pope, Hell and what????

lecoop

That's it Kevin! Get FIRED UP!! Did you know, Jesus took a Catholic lady to hell, so she could come back and write about it - and Jesus showed her that Pope in hell. I would show you the link, but we cannot do that. Jesus also told her WHY the Pope was in hell. I think you would like to read that story. It is so sad that he ended up there. He had every chance to go to heaven. She also saw someone else very popular there.

Lecoop, I don't suppose your not able to provide scripture for that?
I certain hope you don't believe that. Lets stick with the WORD brother..

Rodd:

You must live in fantasy land or Disney

kevinlb63

this is for Brother Mike i have come to a conclusion you! have lost your every loven mind if you think the roman vatican has lost its power!

Sounds like you boys are having a wild time here, but here is the deal....... We have to stop these jabs...... just ask for scripture, and if the person don't get it, then they don't get it.

Lecoop, you seem to have gone way out there Brother. No more Catholic stuff, that can't be proven.

Lets tone it down, and walk like we know Jesus. Eric seems to be doing a fine job conducting himself, and he started the thread. Lets hope the rest of you shape up, and are able to continue posting.

Thank you.

 

[kevinlb63]

i am sorry i got ill but Brother Mike when i see someone say something that is way off
i will prove what i have to say and what i posted is documented truth,. and that is all i ment. the roman church has power and want loose it untill christ come back. and chad the one that made this website will find in my favor.