Once saved can we lose our salvation??

[Stickz]

kingofkings316: I am not a Biblical genius yet, so I can't just go back up one Bible verse with another like most people can yet. I would actually have to study for a while with several references.

I was just simply asking you to provide scripture for what you said. All you had to say was that you couldn't, you don't have to get angry. I believe that if you check out the forum rules you will find that providing scripture for your statements can be found in there somewhere.

kingofkings316: As for faith; you make it sound like it is some hard task to have faith. Of course you need faith to be saved because being saved involves believing that Jesus died on the cross and then rose again.

The Bible is full of people that lacked faith: perhaps you are making having faith too easy?

If you do believe that it takes faith to be saved, why did you question me when I said it?

kingofkings316:
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Originally Posted by Stickz
Does it not take faith to even be saved?

Where does it say that in the Bible? As far as I understand, Jesus died so that when we accept Him, we are saved. The only way I see to lose your salvation is to literally renounce it. My faith is pretty weak still, so I imagine that I am not saved if this is true. And I know I am.

 

[stephen]

All men may loose their Salvation bought through Jesus on the cross, if they do not stay 'saved'

"narrow is the way that leadeth to life.....and few find it" (bible)

Why debate? The way of Salvation is clear

 

[jari]

All men may loose their Salvation bought through Jesus on the cross, if they do not stay 'saved'

"narrow is the way that leadeth to life.....and few find it" (bible)

Why debate? The way of Salvation is clear

Clear hmm. How do you explain the word election? Bible says God has predestinated us to be saved and elected us. How can salvation be lost then if God has decides to save us even before we were born?

 

[kingofkings316]

I was just simply asking you to provide scripture for what you said. All you had to say was that you couldn't, you don't have to get angry. I believe that if you check out the forum rules you will find that providing scripture for your statements can be found in there somewhere.

The Bible is full of people that lacked faith: perhaps you are making having faith too easy?

If you do believe that it takes faith to be saved, why did you question me when I said it?

Okay, I cannot provide more references at this moment. I am sorry. I will do some more studying on this.

I actually do not think having faith is easy. But I also know that having even a little faith will help a lot in anything we try to do on a day to day basis. So I assume that if having the faith of a mustard seed can move mountains, than having any faith at all keeps us close to God.

I actually have no idea why I was arguing with you. I might have misunderstood your previous posts. I am sorry.

 

[Stickz]

So, Jari, you believe in predestination? Why didn't you just say so? It makes these conversations easier when the rest of us can just understand where you are coming from, instead of trying to guess. Had you just said that you believed in predestination, then our earlier conversation could have gone in an entirely different way. The "predestination card" is very important to play, early in the game, so that everyone understands that you have it. It changes the rules, Jari.

Is everyone predestined to go to Heaven, Jari?

How does one know for sure that they are one of the lucky ones that are predestined?

And I am sorry, kingofkings316, if I came off rude to you. Peace be unto you.

 

[RJ]

Clear hmm. How do you explain the word election? Bible says God has predestinated us to be saved and elected us. How can salvation be lost then if God has decides to save us even before we were born?

I like this a lot and completely agree.

I never will fully undersatnd how but, predestination, election and choice all fit together in Gods realm because they are facts and only he can do it!
I sometimes wonder why God makes some things hard for everyone to get a grasp. I think he simply wants us to work at it and strive for truth by studying all of his word.

So, with such devine dynamics in force, how can salvation be lost indeed?!

 

[Stickz]

Peace be unto you

I completely agree that predestination and choice are at work together too. Both are definitely hard to overlook in scripture. He knew who would endure unto the end and He paved their road for them. He also knew who would deny Him completely, who would forsake Him, and who would trade their birthright for a bowl of soup.

 

[TouchTestimony]

how about we just worry about being and doing good? salvation can wait!!

 

[jari]

Hi Stickz


Here's what i think.

So, Jari, you believe in predestination? Why didn't you just say so? It makes these conversations easier when the rest of us can just understand where you are coming from, instead of trying to guess. Had you just said that you believed in predestination, then our earlier conversation could have gone in an entirely different way. The "predestination card" is very important to play, early in the game, so that everyone understands that you have it. It changes the rules, Jari.

Is everyone predestined to go to Heaven, Jari?

How does one know for sure that they are one of the lucky ones that are predestined?

predestination is biblical so its not something i believe alone. Im not calvinist but the word election is there also, in the Bible.
I dont think election has anything to do with luck. It's God who choose us for some reason and some very good reason.


Some verses about election:

Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

1Th 1:2-4 We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers; (3) Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father; (4) Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

2Pe 1:10 Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

(Note election is of God so this verse probably means that we come to know our election. And we find heavenly kingdom abudantly open for us: 2Pe 1:11
Because one must be born again before he can see the kingdom of God
And kingdom of God is already experienced on earth, Like Jesus says the kingdom of God is in you: Luk 17:21
)

2Th 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:


Mat 22:14 For many are called, but few are chosen (Greek word: ek-lek-tos' , which means: From G1586; select; by implication favorite: - chosen, elect).

Perhaps its the response we give to God's grace sooner or later and do His will out of graditude to our heavenly Father why God chose (elected) us.

However not because God needs servants but its rightful for God to chose those who love Him.

Thats just my opinion about why would He choose some im not going to try prove it true as it could be distracting of our main concerns here.

 

[RJ]

Peace be unto you

I completely agree that predestination and choice are at work together too. Both are definitely hard to overlook in scripture. He knew who would endure unto the end and He paved their road for them. He also knew who would deny Him completely, who would forsake Him, and who would trade their birthright for a bowl of soup.

I think this should end any discussion that it is possible for one to fall in and out of salvation. Also:

Phillipians 2:13

New International Version (©1984)
for it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose.
New Living Translation (©2007)
For God is working in you, giving you the desire and the power to do what pleases him.
English Standard Version (©2001)
for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
International Standard Version (©2008)
For it is God who is producing in you both the desire and the ability to do what pleases him.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
For God is carefully working in you both to desire and to do that thing which you desire.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
It is God who produces in you the desires and actions that please him.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
For it is God who works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
American King James Version
For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
American Standard Version
for it is God who worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.
Bible in Basic English
For it is God who is the cause of your desires and of your acts, for his good pleasure.
Douay-Rheims Bible
For it is God who worketh in you, both to will and to accomplish, according to his good will.
Darby Bible Translation
for it is God who works in you both the willing and the working according to his good pleasure.
English Revised Version
for it is God which worketh in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure.
Webster's Bible Translation
For it is God who worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Weymouth New Testament
For it is God Himself whose power creates within you the desire to do His gracious will and also brings about the accomplishment of the desire. World English Bible
For it is God who works in you both to will and to work, for his good pleasure. Young's Literal Translation
for God it is who is working in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure.

 

[Brighthouse]

to what is this??? work???HUMM intersting If salvation has no works,then it is dead?? And if salvation is dead,then the person who holds to this is also dead as well? Even if they say they believe? God's will is free,he would have all be saved,but all will not be saved. Even those who believe they will be. That is why we also have to work our our own salvation with fear and trembling..Phil 2:12-13 ah ah!! lol don't forget verse 12!! please read on as well, verse 15 is the why. now works does not save us, i know this,we have works to prove to ourselves we do believe. But if we believe,we do have proof of our faith. blessing.

 

[RJ]

[QUOTE=Brighthouse;186609]to what is this??? work???HUMM intersting If salvation has no works,then it is dead?? And if salvation is dead,then the person who holds to this is also dead as well? Even if they say they believe? God's will is free,he would have all be saved,but all will not be saved. Even those who believe they will be. That is why we also have to work our our own salvation with fear and trembling..Phil 2:12-13 ah ah!! lol don't forget verse 12!! please read on as well, verse 15 is the why. now works does not save us, i know this,we have works to prove to ourselves we do believe. But if we believe,we do have proof of our faith. blessing.[/QUOTE]

QUOTE=Brighthouse;186609]to what is this??? work???HUMM intersting If salvation has no works,then it is dead?? And if salvation is dead,then the person who holds to this is also dead as well?

Yes salvation with works but not according to the Old Covenant, these works are from yourself..and are like filthy rags to God!

Yes salvation with works but according to the New Covenant and works from the Lord through you, which pleases God!

 

[Stickz]

Thanks, Jari, for answering. I know that the words are found in the texts, and that they really only have one meaning.

Jari: Perhaps its the response we give to God's grace sooner or later and do His will out of graditude to our heavenly Father why God chose (elected) us.

Whether it's out of gratitude or not, what you are saying here sounds like "works" to me?

Jari: However not because God needs servants but its rightful for God to chose those who love Him.

And, according to scripture, how do we know who loves God? And does one have to love God to be saved?

Jari: Thats just my opinion about why would He choose some im not going to try prove it true as it could be distracting of our main concerns here.

I must not understand what you mean here, Jari. I thought that our main concerns here were trying to decide how to get saved, and what saves us? If you have evidence about why God picks some over others, is there a better place than this thread for your information?

*****

RJ, if you are convinced, that's really all that matters, right? I'm just here to show that what you people say can be viewed differently, so that people who have not decided yet can see that there might be more to think about. Don't worry, though, according to statistics, most will choose to believe what you believe. There's a reason why the majority of preachers on television, and the majority of books that are sold involve people that believe in Once Saved, Always Saved. I won't go into those reasons, but I have never really been one to run with the crowd either, so I suppose that I am where I have always been: Outside of the crowd.

I have accepted that OSAS is going to stick around, you should accept that what we believe is going to stick around too. We have just as much validity, whether you see it or not.

Once we have all come to the realization that we cannot be doing God's will by trying to change one another's minds, perhaps, we will learn what the will of God is, and our lives will actually become fruitful and righteous before God. Of course, I'm not exactly sure how that works for people that believe in OSAS, but for those who do not, we have to put forth the effort, make the decision, and move on to worrying about the people that have not made a decision yet.

RJ, would you list some examples of works according to the New Covenant for me please so that I can get a feel for what you mean? Thanks.

 

[jari]

Thanks, Jari, for answering. I know that the words are found in the texts, and that they really only have one meaning.



Whether it's out of gratitude or not, what you are saying here sounds like "works" to me?

And, according to scripture, how do we know who loves God? And does one have to love God to be saved?



I must not understand what you mean here, Jari. I thought that our main concerns here were trying to decide how to get saved, and what saves us? If you have evidence about why God picks some over others, is there a better place than this thread for your information?

Yes they are works but you are already saved and despite the fact do you do any works.

No Bible says He first loved us. And id say our love isnt measurement of salvation but when Jesus saves you that should great love in us toward Him.

I leave it to God take care who He electes. Fact is Bible says God wishes everybody to be saved.

 

[Brighthouse]

Amen R.J!!! Rom 13:8-10 Loves ful-filled both the Old and New!! I would never even think to boast in anything of me!! Love which was created,and given to us all, can only be seen if one allows Jesus in them to show this. 1 cor 1:29-31! But love is not silent,it has works to it.Jesus was our example in this. John 13:33-35 to love one another we have to do this,not just talk of this. John 15:13 Jesus had to do something.so do we. In Christ!! amen

 

[farout]

Kobecriss: You said you loose your salvation when you quit trying. I am rather puzzled at what you said. Could you please give me some Scripture to back this up?

I wonder how John 3:16 fits into yourstatement?

 

[RJ]

Thanks, Jari, for answering. I know that the words are found in the texts, and that they really only have one meaning.



Whether it's out of gratitude or not, what you are saying here sounds like "works" to me?

And, according to scripture, how do we know who loves God? And does one have to love God to be saved?



I must not understand what you mean here, Jari. I thought that our main concerns here were trying to decide how to get saved, and what saves us? If you have evidence about why God picks some over others, is there a better place than this thread for your information?

*****

RJ, if you are convinced, that's really all that matters, right? I'm just here to show that what you people say can be viewed differently, so that people who have not decided yet can see that there might be more to think about. Don't worry, though, according to statistics, most will choose to believe what you believe. There's a reason why the majority of preachers on television, and the majority of books that are sold involve people that believe in Once Saved, Always Saved. I won't go into those reasons, but I have never really been one to run with the crowd either, so I suppose that I am where I have always been: Outside of the crowd.

I have accepted that OSAS is going to stick around, you should accept that what we believe is going to stick around too. We have just as much validity, whether you see it or not.

Once we have all come to the realization that we cannot be doing God's will by trying to change one another's minds, perhaps, we will learn what the will of God is, and our lives will actually become fruitful and righteous before God. Of course, I'm not exactly sure how that works for people that believe in OSAS, but for those who do not, we have to put forth the effort, make the decision, and move on to worrying about the people that have not made a decision yet.

RJ, would you list some examples of works according to the New Covenant for me please so that I can get a feel for what you mean? Thanks.

RJ, if you are convinced, that's really all that matters, right? I'm just here to show that what you people say can be viewed differently, so that people who have not decided yet can see that there might be more to think about
so, what you people say...LOL! So, now I am officially in the category of "you people".. hehe!...don't pay any attention to me...I'm in a laughing mood.....love those natural endorphins...beats the man made ones every time!! LOL!!1

Yes, in all seriousness, different views are good, except of course that the Lord is our salvation and redeemer, for which there should be but one view among us people...haha...sorry!! lol..

I have accepted that OSAS is going to stick around, you should accept that what we believe is going to stick around too. We have just as much validity, whether you see it or not.
Agreed, we can all agree to disagree, except for the afore mentioned part that the Lord is our Saviour.

Once we have all come to the realization that we cannot be doing God's will by trying to change one another's minds, perhaps, we will learn what the will of God is, and our lives will actually become fruitful and righteous before God. Of course, I'm not exactly sure how that works for people that believe in OSAS, but for those who do not, we have to put forth the effort, make the decision, and move on to worrying about the people that have not made a decision yet.

The will of God....this is key!
Do you beleive as a Born Again Christian, that God lives in You?
If you do, then you need to know that God wants to do his will through you....not that you do things to please him....there is nothing that you can personally do to please God, any of it would just fall short.

What I have come to understand,is that God loves us so much that he has taken the process of salvation completely out of our hands; like he says it is a gift and all we have to do is recieve it, thats it...take it..believe!
He has done this for a reason and that reason stems from a perfect process that only he can do because we , no matter what we do, we can not match the requirement of his perfection.

RJ, would you list some examples of works according to the New Covenant for me please so that I can get a feel for what you mean? Thanks.
I promise to work on this, it is not just something I can pull togehter real quick and do it justice. I will get some examples together and post it to this thread as soon as I can.

While I am working on your request, let's go back up to the comment above and allow me to explain a bit further what makes my thinking tick.
When you really look at it, our salvation is a process by which only God can dictate and, it can only be perfect and fool proof... and we humans are the fools, if we think we can possible do anything toward this process of our own doing , except believe, then we are slaves to the Old Law.

This process of salvation is the only answer to the old process that was perfect but required by use to do it, who are imperfect; this old process was the Old Covenant, a process of laws (like the 10 commandments) and Atonement.

God said that he abolished the Old Covenant for a better one, the New Covenant. Not that there was anything wrong with the Old, no...it was perfect. Take the 10 commandments for example:
God said that it was insufficient, because we humans could not keep up with it 24/7. He said that if we failed on one of them, then we failed on all 10....so that wasn't the answer to salvation.

No, God created the perfect covenant, the New Covenant that if we had faith in his grace, he would live inside us, seal us and provide salvation now and unto eternity.....simple put, he does everything for us perfectly and we have no way of messing it up, unless we choose not to recieve his gift.


Because he is in me and I see nothing in scriptures that he will leave, then OSAS.

I will get back to you with those scriptures!

 

[Stickz]

RJ: so, what you people say...LOL! So, now I am officially in the category of "you people".. hehe!...don't pay any attention to me...I'm in a laughing mood.....love those natural endorphins...beats the man made ones every time!! LOL!!1

RJ, how would you like for me to refer to you? You didn't seem to like OSASer either. You seem to somehow find something about everything that I say, does it just simply bother you because I disagree with you?

RJ: The will of God....this is key!
Do you beleive as a Born Again Christian, that God lives in You?
If you do, then you need to know that God wants to do his will through you....not that you do things to please him....there is nothing that you can personally do to please God, any of it would just fall short.

Yes, RJ, I believe that a true Christian should have the Holy Spirit. But, everyone claims to have the Holy Spirit, and I will admit that I don't believe that everyone that claims to actually does. I'm sure that some are deceived.

In the scriptures ( including the New Testament ) I see where I am asked to do and not do certain things. I'm not told that sometimes God will keep me from sinning and sometimes He won't. I'm not told that sometimes God will move me to give to the homeless, and it's going to happen whether I allow it or not. Everything that my body does, I have to, personally, be involved in, and I can choose to do it or not. Otherwise, it's more like possession. Maybe I don't understand what you are saying. That's why I want that list of New Testament works that you were referring to. Do you, yourself, not have these New Testament works? Why do you need to look them up in scripture? If you are referring to the fruits of the Spirit? anyone can claim to have those too.

When temptation to sin arises, how should we handle it, RJ? Should we just go ahead and perform the sin, assuming that if God hadn't wanted us to do it, He wouldn't have allowed the temptation to be put before us in the first place? Or, should we willfully try to fight the temptation ( with God's help, of course ) and not allow ourselves to do the sin if we can help it?

RJ: What I have come to understand,is that God loves us so much that he has taken the process of salvation completely out of our hands; like he says it is a gift and all we have to do is recieve it, thats it...take it..believe!
He has done this for a reason and that reason stems from a perfect process that only he can do because we , no matter what we do, we can not match the requirement of his perfection.

I understand that we have all fallen short of the glory of God, RJ. I truly have studied the Bible, and have put some study into why some believe OSAS and some don't. Both sides have seen all the scripture, but have interpreted them differently, and that is my interest.

And I could probably agree with you if I didn't see where we were given another bunch of commandments in the New Testament. There would not be rules if we were not meant to abide by them. In my opinion, the New Testament authors continue to warn people to do this and be that way. If they taught what you teach, I don't see much point in most of the New Testament being written. No offense, I'm just trying to explain to you the way that I see it. The NT is full of rebuking, correcting, warnings. And it's all addressed to believers, not unbelievers.

RJ: While I am working on your request, let's go back up to the comment above and allow me to explain a bit further what makes my thinking tick.
When you really look at it, our salvation is a process by which only God can dictate and, it can only be perfect and fool proof... and we humans are the fools, if we think we can possible do anything toward this process of our own doing , except believe, then we are slaves to the Old Law.

I don't see myself as a slave to the Old Law, RJ. Just because one teaches to obey God, doesn't mean that they are teaching the Old Laws. Animal sacrifice was part of the Old Law, and you don't hear/see me preaching that.

Are you calling me a fool, RJ?

Okay, so why does God even require us to believe? If He loves us so much, why make so many people knowing that the majority would end up in Hell anyway? Did He not love the people from the Old Testament as much? Does God discriminate? Why not show the kind of love that you are speaking of much earlier in time? I bet millions of people from the Old Testament will spend eternity in Hell wishing that they had had it as easy as you have it. It just doesn't sound just to me.

 

[Stickz]

Kobecriss: You said you loose your salvation when you quit trying. I am rather puzzled at what you said. Could you please give me some Scripture to back this up?

I wonder how John 3:16 fits into yourstatement?

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Some of us, farout, see the word 'believeth' here as an on-going work, and not a one-time shot.

Can a woman not marry a man that she whole-heartedly believes in, just to find out years down the road that she no longer has faith in him?

If our salvation rested entirely on God's faith in us, then I would agree with you and say that we can never fall away from God because He doesn't change or waver. But, since it actually does depend on our believing in Him, well .... And it is what it is.

Hebrews 11:29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.

They had faith when they passed through the Red Sea.

Hebrews 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Hebrews 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Hebrews 3:14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;

Hebrews 3:15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.

Hebrews 3:16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.

Hebrews 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

Hebrews 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

Hebrews 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

But in the end God had to destroy those that didn't believe, right? After He had already destroyed a bunch of them for sinning, and that explains why they hadn't entered into the Promised Land.

 

[brakelite]

This may be somewhat off topic, although I think it is important relative to the current discussion. The relationship between salvation and works and the requirement for compliance or non-compliance to the Ten Commandments is greatly misunderstood by many, along with that is a great misunderstanding of what the Old Covenant was really all about.
Inherent in the Ten Commandments is the gospel. The first commandment has been edited by most but if we read the entire passage of scripture, we can readily see that God is not commanding us to do the impossible. The Ten Commandments begin:
Exodus 20:2 " I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before Me."

In this small portion of the scripture is found the key to understanding our relationship to God's laws, and how to find the power to obey them. Here is the gospel.
You may be thinking, "Hey, that first part isn't a part of the law, because it doesn't tell us something we must do or not do! Instead, it tells us of something God has done!!!"
Yes, exactly! And that's the point. The entire Ten Commandments start with something God has done, and not with something we must do.
"I am the Lord thy God who has...." God did not give us His law and then say, " Okay, if you manage to obey, then heaven is yours", knowing that we would fail. He knows us well, that we are but dust, morally corrupt, and totally incapable in and of ourselves to render any righteousness that meets God's requirements. That is why He starts His law with what He has done for us, and not what we are to do for Him.
God has delivered us from bondage. Deliverance from Egypt is a type of man's deliverance from sin...sin which according to the only specific definition in scripture is, transgression against the law. The deliverance God refers to is a direct reference to the Passover. To the blood of the Lamb. A deliverance only He has accomplished, all by Himself, and without any assistance from us. The Passover was symbolic of Calvary. The shed blood of the lamb pointed forward to the crucifixion. ( John 1:29; 1 Cor. 5:7)
So when God gave His law, He pointed first back to the Passover, which itself points to the future, the cross. And there you have the gospel embedded within the law, and far from being distinct from one another, the law and gospel compliment one another perfectly.
Isaiah 44:22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.
Notice that the part we play in redemption comes after God plays His part. "Come to Me, for I have redeemed thee". And notice also that Israel's salvation and redemption and final entrance into Canaan was a process, not a one off act. First, the blood of the lamb brought deliverance from bondage, then came Sinai and the giving of the law, with the power to obey established already on the already accomplished work of God whilst they were yet in bondage. Romans 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Our obedience doesn't activate God's grace, as many would charge me with claiming. It is God's saving grace that activates our law-keeping. The power for all true obedience is present in our realization of what God has already done for us in Christ by virtue of His 'unearnable' grace.We are simply called upon to come alive to and walk in the victory and the freedom from bondage that Christ has won for us.
Without Christ as the center of the law, without Christ not only as the law-giver but also the empowering agent behind the law, the Ten Commandments degenerate into a mere idealistic code of ethics, a kind of religious "wish-list". The same goes for all those who look at the law as an impossibly attainable goal; they leave Christ out of the equation, even claiming that it is theologically acceptable to believe that Christ's death annuls the law.
God loves us out of sin, and God loves us into obedience.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Justified by Christ's death, and sanctified by His life. Delivered from bondage by His blood, empowered to remain free by His Spirit.
And rather than impossible commands, with the love of Jesus motivating and empowering us, the precepts of the Ten Commandments become promises.
Exodus 20:2 " I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.You shall have no other gods before Me."