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Shocking Youth Message Stuns Hearers

the only thing that i disagree with in that whole sermon is where the man stated that if you ask jesus into your heart that he does not actually come into your heart. .

he doesnt say that. Jesus come into your heart if you have faith in Him, believe in Him, and repent. many just say that little prayer one time and forget that they must maintain a relationship with Jesus. Thats what he was preaching about.
 
Just thinking why many christians...saved...and are going to heaven by faith believers have many petty issues that are forever unsolved..... i dont blame them, some pastors give or dish out unhealthy diet/ food, stale cold food which cripples the lives of believers in so many different ways. We need the above word of teaching to revive our lifestyle thus the nations.....For where the word of the king is, there is power. Power to save, deliver us from foolishness and craftiness of this world, heal us and impact supernatural knowledge and wisdom.

Paul said the narrow part is where God disciplines you to be in line and a thought came to me on psalms 23:4 "Even though i walk through the valley of the shadow of death i will fear no evil, for You're with me, Your ROD and Your STAFF they comfort me.." In this journey of salvation we have to pass through the valleys but thank God there is a Rod that the shepherd(God) uses to keep the sheep in line not to go astray....and that's what paul says God discilplines as in that narrow path that we may not go astray.... you are in His will for you've choosen to lead His way (salvation) that's why He's doing it in love.

Thats so powerful to me. "Lord i desire to be on that narrow path, discipline me the way You want to, for You know whats right for me, Amen."
 
he doesnt say that. Jesus come into your heart if you have faith in Him, believe in Him, and repent. many just say that little prayer one time and forget that they must maintain a relationship with Jesus. Thats what he was preaching about.

You are right. No where did he say that in the literal sense, but was emphasizing and clarifying what comes and must follow after the initial sinners prayer.
 
"And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."
- I Corinthians 2:4, 5
 
WOW!! I Finally saw the video. Amazing! I prayed before watching it asking for guidence and understanding. Very convicting to the end and I praise The Lord of Hosts even more. Thanks Chad for sending out the messege, and God was definately speaking through Paul. I pray that this messege spreads like fire so that many more souls get saved and for those of us that take action I pray in the name of Jesus Christ to bless us with the courage, wisdom, knowledge, and the Holy Spirit to guide us and protect us. God Bless you all!

1 John 5:12
 
How do I get in touch with Paul Washer?

Shocking Youth Message Stuns Hearers - So Shocking & Biblical the Preacher Was Never Invited Back

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You must watch this and listen *very carefully*. You won't regret it, trust me on this.

PLEASE NOTE...
the longer you watch *AND* listen, the more serious and more CONVICTING the message becomes throughout the video message. DO NOT BE FOOLISH by shutting off the video just because you see how long the message is (almost one hour). Is your soul worth your laziness?

Note: this is not to frighten you nor doubt your Salvation. Its merely a wake up call. Let the Holy Spirit convict you as you go in prayer in Jesus' name.

Matthew 7:12-16
The Golden Rule

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Matthew 7:22-26
Many will say to Me on that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name and driven out demons in Your name and done many mighty works in Your name?

And then I will say to them openly (publicly), I never knew you; depart from Me, you who act wickedly [disregarding My commands]. So everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon them [obeying them] will be like a sensible (prudent, practical, wise) man who built his house upon the rock.

And the rain fell and the floods came and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not do them will be like a stupid (foolish) man who built his house upon the sand.

Hi Chad, How do I get in touch with Paul Washer.
Peace be with You
JudgeDan
 
I know that many North American churches are spiritually bankrupt, but I have a problem with Rev.Washer seemingly painting all curches with the same brush. Quite a few congregations have broken away from mainline denominations in recent years because of their unbiblical teachings and practices. The Holy Spirit has been shaking the church for quite some time.

SLE

He's not throwing every church into the mix. My church is one of the churches that doesn't preach a watered down version of the gospel. He's saying the church of America as a whole, because 90 percent of churches in America are defrauding their congregation and themselves, are not gospel teaching churches but rather "feel-good lukewarm" churches. He is right in saying that. a few examples:

Paula White and Randy White:
Got a divorce yet taught against it. Paula and Randy both teach prosperity gospels. Paula has had multiple plastic surgeries. Randy was caught on tape laughing at homosexuals instead of trying to save them like Paul or Stephan or Jesus would have done, then he denied he was Randy white when confronted.

Juanita Bynum: has a five thousand dollar pen and if you don't have one your just common. her and her husband got a divorce, though not because of sexual sin which is the only biblical grounds for a divorce but because her and her husband had marital battles, physically and verbally.

Joel Osteen: said Mormons are Christians and go to heaven. Mormons believe they are becoming gods like our God and they believe black people will be their slaves in one of their multiple heavens. Joel won't say that Jesus is the only way, because he says "it's not my place to judge."

He just got done recording his new live album and they play the song "At the Cross" by HIllsong. well, the chorus to the original is "At the cross i bow my knee where your BLOOD was shed for me" but they changed it to "At the cross i bow my knee where your LOVE was shed for me" They treat Jesus' blood as something of offense. how utterly dumb.

Robert Schuyler:
He said that he's come to the point to where he is no longer tempted. Robert Shuyler took the word JESUS BLOOD out of his sermons and music! that's so ridiculous.

Rick Warren: He's for the council of churches which has a made a temple for every religion. The council of churches goal is to unite every religion into peace and have no one evangelists because that's considered hate acts and hate speech and it's intolerant.

John Haggie: I agree with most everything he said, then he said that Jesus didn't come to be the Messiah and that the Jews shouldn't be blamed for not believing in Jesus as the Messiah because the gospel was never presented to them. we know that's not true, just read Acts.


my point is not to bash anyone becasue all of this has been in the news, I care for each of them and am sad to see the elect even being turned away from the true faith as the Bible Prophesies, however they are all mega churches with multiple thousands of people. If they are what the churches in other countries see who go through persecution everyday, don't you think just by virtue of our heresies they would sit and think "wow, what a joke. they are lying to their people to avoid offending someone and they are deceiving their congregations, they don't even know what a lie they are living. I hope and pray God speaks to them."

all the outside sees are these mega churches abusing God. that's why they say "The American Church." see what I am saying?

We (meaning the church as a whole) look like the world, we act like the world, we are the world with the title "Christian" slapped on us. God was not wrong when he said "the way is narrow...FEW find it" and "many are called, FEW are chosen."

In Him,
Sky
 
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ok i miss heard what was stated i apologize for this. because it could have mislead someone.

this is the whole thing right here. churches in america have become business and corporation rather than about god. its all about the mighty dollar bill ya all.

we can try to deny it and we can try to claim thats not my church and all that garbage. but lets look at it. most churches are under the 501c3 corporation tax free but governmental control plan. lets admit to the facts and forget about the lies.
 
ok, I'm at work, and I am listening to it again...I am such a bad person lol oh man. It makes you want to cry...I can't help but see my depravity and how much I need a Savior.

I like the testimony of the boy who was shot 5 times because would not stop professing Jesus Christ...and I thought I was radical for Christ...I want to know that suffering...for Christ...I don't know how anyone can listen to that and think ill of the teaching...I believe it's an absence of who God is in their lives. the lack of Jesus in their life.
 
The thing is this makes me very depressed yes I can hold my hands up and say am the worst Christian EVER and I mean that I must be right at the bottom of the pile and to be honest this video really hurt me because it cast all of the hope out of my heart.

Am a bad person I try to turn away from Sin but I keep doing bad things and believe me I do try and always afterwards I feel so so so so BAD but it seems like this is the way am always going to be.

Before anyone replies to my post saying your not trying hard enough or God will help you please don't trust me you have no idea each individual is different and this is super hard for me and I have tried a million times and fail.

This video was harsh in that it's given me the view in what the heck is the point because I thought feeling as bad as I did and sorry as I do would some what let God forgive me because he knows the hurt and pain I feel in my heart and he knows I am truly sorry.

But now I feel all hope is lost and there is not a single point in me being a Christian because am going to hell anyway :S

Thanks for this video I think it took all hope I ever had in my life out of it :( and has really hurt me, am not saying it isn't the truth am saying it is the truth and I suppose I know it no one can take it away what can I say I don't want to go to hell but I am going there so thats that :(

Rick
 
Rickeo...why are you talking this way? Do you not know that Christ already paid the price of your sins?

The purpose of the message here is to wake people up to *actually follow Him* and not be hypocrites. There is nothing so difficult about wanting to follow Christ instead of the world. I'm not saying its easy, but neither did Christ say that so you know we'll never be perfect. But we have the choice to be true followers or talkers who 'believe'.

If you truly love Christ and you truly desire to follow Him, you are in fact saved. That is the power of the Holy Spirit that transforms you. Everyone will backslide generally speaking, but GOD forgives. Read the story about the Prodigal Son. That'll give you an idea of HOW much GOD loves us (one example of many).

Don't let the devil tell you that your going to hell. He's a defeated foe, a liar.
 
The thing is this makes me very depressed yes I can hold my hands up and say am the worst Christian EVER and I mean that I must be right at the bottom of the pile and to be honest this video really hurt me because it cast all of the hope out of my heart.

Am a bad person I try to turn away from Sin but I keep doing bad things and believe me I do try and always afterwards I feel so so so so BAD but it seems like this is the way am always going to be.

Before anyone replies to my post saying your not trying hard enough or God will help you please don't trust me you have no idea each individual is different and this is super hard for me and I have tried a million times and fail.

This video was harsh in that it's given me the view in what the heck is the point because I thought feeling as bad as I did and sorry as I do would some what let God forgive me because he knows the hurt and pain I feel in my heart and he knows I am truly sorry.

But now I feel all hope is lost and there is not a single point in me being a Christian because am going to hell anyway :S

Thanks for this video I think it took all hope I ever had in my life out of it :( and has really hurt me, am not saying it isn't the truth am saying it is the truth and I suppose I know it no one can take it away what can I say I don't want to go to hell but I am going there so thats that :(

Rick

I will comment more on this, but have you thought that maybe you are having worldly sorrow? Godly sorrow produces repentance, not worldly sorrow. In other words, are you just sorry because you disobeyed, or sorrowful because you hurt God? Godly sorrow produces repentance.

See, your saying that God should forgive you because you feel very sorry. You are basing God's forgiveness on an emotional thing. God says to confess and repent and God is faithful to forgive us our sins. Like I mentioned earlier, Jesus said "Go and sin NO MORE" no matter how sorry you feel, do you really have a repentant heart?

I think you were feeling convicted becasue maybe your heart is unrepentant. Is it worldly sorrow, or Godly sorrow leading to repentance? Godly sorrow does lead to repentance, but worldly sorry leaves you feeling sorry but unchanged and unrepentant.

Just think about it :)

In Him,
Skylar


Rickeo...why are you talking this way? Do you not know that Christ already paid the price of your sins?

The purpose of the message here is to wake people up to *actually follow Him* and not be hypocrites. There is nothing so difficult about wanting to follow Christ instead of the world. I'm not saying its easy, but neither did Christ say that so you know we'll never be perfect. But we have the choice to be true followers or talkers who 'believe'.

If you truly love Christ and you truly desire to follow Him, you are in fact saved. That is the power of the Holy Spirit that transforms you. Everyone will backslide generally speaking, but GOD forgives. Read the story about the Prodigal Son. That'll give you an idea of HOW much GOD loves us (one example of many).

Don't let the devil tell you that your going to hell. He's a defeated foe, a liar.

Exactly. Rick, anything is possible with God, but what if God is calling you to surrender all your life to Him and maybe He's speaking through the video, Chad, or I? The truth hurts many times if not all the time. I was consumed by pornography for 8 years and I am only 18. It started at age 7 and went until I Christ literally grabbed me and shook me out. The Video being discussed is one of the first sermons I had heard after becoming a Christian. It did convict me, not condemn me.

I will pray for you because I love you and I know that if God could take me from where I was, I know he can do the same for you :) what else are we here for but to exhort, correct, and restore our brothers' and sisters in Christ who are weaker in the faith? at least God has called us to do that.

In Him,
Skylar
 
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Thank you, I loved this message, it was very inspiring and refreshing to hear.

We need to walk away from this world and become more like Jesus, walk like him, talk like him and produce the right and good fruits as he did. he came to show us the way.

What Paul describes in this sermon, I see so much of this going on around us, this concerns and upsets me. I felt the passion and the compassion in Paul's voice as he preached this message.

People need to wake up, this is not a game. People have been blinded by satans lies, people need to change, become more holy. God is holy, we need to be holy. God is patient, just start today, it's a daily walk, which takes time. Don't worry about tomorrow, just take one step and one day at a time and read your bible daily and pray in the holy spirit. I know God can do the rest. If you put your trust in Him, you can't go wrong.

This is not just in America; it's all over the world. This country is much the same as Paul describes in his message. People bring culture and religion into it and worship God their way. Have that relationship with God and His son.

1Jo 1:3 That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
 
Rickeo- Christ loves you very much AS YOU ARE. He is so excited to be with you in heaven one day. I'm not saying this is an excuse to sin...but I think we all know how it feels to get into the hole of sin and not be able to climb out. Over and over, day after day we fall into the same temptation and afterwards feel disgusted with ourselves. I know how this feels at least, I lived in sin for years, even up until the day I got married... :( Christ doesn't love you any less, Rickeo, He wants to help you with your sin, He wanted to help me too...but I didn't accept it...
 
true....deep...you forgot one little detail.....Go(action), and sin no more(keep the commandments)...
 
The thing is this makes me very depressed yes I can hold my hands up and say am the worst Christian EVER and I mean that I must be right at the bottom of the pile and to be honest this video really hurt me because it cast all of the hope out of my heart.

Am a bad person I try to turn away from Sin but I keep doing bad things and believe me I do try and always afterwards I feel so so so so BAD but it seems like this is the way am always going to be.

Before anyone replies to my post saying your not trying hard enough or God will help you please don't trust me you have no idea each individual is different and this is super hard for me and I have tried a million times and fail.

This video was harsh in that it's given me the view in what the heck is the point because I thought feeling as bad as I did and sorry as I do would some what let God forgive me because he knows the hurt and pain I feel in my heart and he knows I am truly sorry.

But now I feel all hope is lost and there is not a single point in me being a Christian because am going to hell anyway :S

Thanks for this video I think it took all hope I ever had in my life out of it :( and has really hurt me, am not saying it isn't the truth am saying it is the truth and I suppose I know it no one can take it away what can I say I don't want to go to hell but I am going there so thats that :(

Rick

You aren't going to hell brother, if you do you don't believe in Jesus, that's the point.

I realized I saw a part of this video last year (might have been the whole thing), I can't remember it all, but I haven't had the time to completely watch it.

Point being, no matter who or what you are, if you have faith in Jesus, repent (turn away from) your sin then that's all thats needed. Let me tell you now, straight, honest, true and bold if you like, I am a sinner, I'm a smoker, I drink alcohol some days when I can afford it to drown some of my bad emotions and I use foul language at times.

Difference is, when I'm alone and God convicts me of these things, I take it into account, I confess it to Him and He knows my heart, only He. If you are totally perfect, without ever committing sin, then I'm probably sure that there never was one Christian in this world, that's bold.

It's our duty and our total mission to "try" at the very least to stay away from sin. I don't watch television and if I do it's for short periods at a time. I don't listen to heavy metal anymore, it used to be my favourite music in the world, I used to enjoy it a lot.

I don't have as much outbursts of anger, I rarely get into conflict with other people and I tend to do what's required of me, albeit not always the best attitude.

I guess you see where I'm going with this, don't you? YOUR LIFE is up to YOU. What you do with it, is up to you, that's it. God is the first in my life, even with all my failings and small areas where I commit sin, I know God loves me with His whole being and He wants the best for me, and for you and everyone else.

Saying, "I'm going to hell, so I might as well not bother" is like saying my head hurts I might as well ask someone to cut it off. Don't be a fool, that's plainly said, if you are a Christian and was truly reborn, the last thing you would even imagine let alone confess is that your rightful place is in hell, do you understand me? I sincerely hope you do.

There's no place for self pity and "poor me's" when our Salvation is concerned, God saved us by His grace people and it's time to ACT UP, SHAPE UP and GET IN LINE.

I decided to edit my post, because part of the message I gave was really direct. There's nothing wrong with having emotions and feeling emotionally drained or "down", that's normal, even for the healthiest human, but my point I'm trying to make is, we should be in a position where we "never" doubt our salvation, even for a second.

I don't doubt my salvation, I doubted it for 5 long years before 2004 and to be honest, I really wasn't saved, although I thought I was. It's part of life and that's what I'm trying to say. It won't help climbing into a box because God is chastising us by showing us our lives are wrong, we have to repent and say sorry Lord, we'll change. But guess what? We can't do it alone, it's impossible.

In Hebrews the Bible says Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith, if every Christian responding negatively to this thread truly believed that, I doubt they would have a problem with Paul Washer or even Charles Darwin for that matter. If you know you are saved and if Jesus is the Author and Perfecter of that faith, then my friends, why get into a roadhouse fight about things? Accept that Jesus sent His ministers to bring us a message and don't go in blindly into that message, take the Word of God and read about it, confirm it or deny it, but don't just accept everything life throws at you.

Like I said, I am a sinner, but I am not proud of my sin and I don't get intoxicated pleasure out of it, it's a failing in my life, a broken bone in my body, it's a wound that needs to heal, only with the help and guidance of Jesus though.

God bless
 
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true....deep...you forgot one little detail.....Go(action), and sin no more(keep the commandments)...

lol, ya I thought I had covered it with the word phrase "it's an action word" as in repentance circumferential through the whole thought which included "go, sin no more." anyways...lol
 
What is surprising to me is that people find the sermon shocking. What makes it shocking to you ?

About 5 people already asked this question in this thread. Read the posts and you'll know. He's not your average sugar coated preacher or pastor. That's what's shocking, but add his style of preaching too is not soft - yet 100% truthful to Scripture.
 
i think the thing that most people find shocking about it, is that in america they dont hear such bold direct gospel preaching like this anymore.

we have become so adapt to the, fluff,tell us we are always right and accepted just as we are and can just sit on our duff living in fornication, adultery, stealing, liing, manipulating and the things that we want in our selfishness, that we set aside what the true word of god states. we are so busy looking and diagnosing what this young man preached that even now we do not discuss the truth as to what is really being taught in the churches in this country. how far away from god have our churches gone all in the hopes of popularity and false growth. the more people we have the more right our church is doing. that is not however what the bible teaches concerning prospering in the new testiment.
 
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