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The ten commandments helpful?
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The law teaches two things, what love is and what selfishness is.
If I love my nieghbor I will not covet his wife, if I love my nieghbor I will not steal from him, if I love my nieghbor I will not lie to him, as well as the other three that refers to my nieghbor.
Also If I love God I will have no other Gods before Him, if I love God I will not bow down to any graven images, if I love God I will not take His name in vain, if I love God I will Keep the sabbath day holy.
On the other hand if I want to serve self I will steal, lie, covet, kill, commit adultry and I won't honor my parents. I will also worship anything I want, take God's name in vain, and trample upon His sabbath, and above all put self before God.
Keeping the law of God is about love. God is love and His law is love because it says "thou shalt not...." and if I love I will not.
Breaking the law is about self or self serving.
Self should be crucified in Christ so that the love of Christ will riegn in us.
We know that God is holy and love also being God is holy. The law being love then it is also holy and cannot be done away with because it the character of God. God is life then also the law being of God is also life.
Sin is not of God and it is in contrast of the law. God is life and all that is of God is life, all that is not of God is death. Obiedence to the law is life, disobedience to the law is death.
Because I transgressed the law I deserve death, Jesus took my transgression upon Himself and it was crucified in Him, aslo crucifing my death, and in turn gave me His obedience to the law which gives me life. By faith I recieve His obedience (His righteousness) which is manifested in my works, so that it is no longer me, but Christ working His work in me.
So you definitely disagree with Paul then that God laid the old covenant including the Law engraved in stone aside and put it away.
Seems you are dependent on the law as a teacher. Have you got any scripture to support your opinion?
When we were controlled by our old nature, [fn] sinful desires were at work within us, and the law aroused these evil desires that produced a harvest of sinful deeds, resulting in death. But now we have been released from the law, for we died to it and are no longer captive to its power. Now we can serve God, not in the old way of obeying the letter of the law, but in the new way of living in the Spirit. Romans 7:5&6
Jiggyfly, what does the Holy Spirit convict us of?
Sin, which is something that the law aroused. :wink:
No jiggyfly I don't disagree with Paul it is your understanding that I am having a difficult time with. Read Hebrews10:16
Romans 3:31
Romans 2:20
Romans 519-21
Romans 4:15
Romans 7:7
Romans7:12
Romans8:3,4
Hebrews 8:10
1 John 3:4
Rev. 14:12
Galations 3:24,25
There are many more texts that I can give to you but lack of time at this moment prevents me from giving them to you.
The law has a purpose, it is to lead us to Christ. The law tells us what sin is and our need for Christ to overcome sin wich causes death. Victory through faith gives us power to overcome sin and delivers us from being under the law so that the law has no more power over us. It is in the sense that we no longer need the law.
Where there is no Law there is no sin. If we sin we revive the law, this is taken from the words of Paul.
Romans 3:31
Romans 2:20
Romans 519-21
Romans 4:15
Romans 7:7
Romans7:12
Romans8:3,4
Hebrews 8:10
1 John 3:4
Rev. 14:12
Galations 3:24,25
There are many more texts that I can give to you but lack of time at this moment prevents me from giving them to you.
The law has a purpose, it is to lead us to Christ. The law tells us what sin is and our need for Christ to overcome sin wich causes death. Victory through faith gives us power to overcome sin and delivers us from being under the law so that the law has no more power over us. It is in the sense that we no longer need the law.
Where there is no Law there is no sin. If we sin we revive the law, this is taken from the words of Paul.
Maybe I missed it but I see nothing about the law being a teacher. Have you got some scriptures that state such?No jiggyfly I don't disagree with Paul it is your understanding that I am having a difficult time with. Read Hebrews10:16
Romans 3:31
Romans 2:20
Romans 519-21
Romans 4:15
Romans 7:7
Romans7:12
Romans8:3,4
Hebrews 8:10
1 John 3:4
Rev. 14:12
Galations 3:24,25
There are many more texts that I can give to you but lack of time at this moment prevents me from giving them to you.
The law has a purpose, it is to lead us to Christ. The law tells us what sin is and our need for Christ to overcome sin wich causes death. Victory through faith gives us power to overcome sin and delivers us from being under the law so that the law has no more power over us. It is in the sense that we no longer need the law.
Where there is no Law there is no sin. If we sin we revive the law, this is taken from the words of Paul.
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The last text that I gave to you says just that.
Galatians 3:24,25 "Wherefore the law was our schoollmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come we are no longer under a shcoolmaster."
Also Romans 3:20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."
If the law brings knowledge then it is a teacher.
Here is how it works.
Jesus crucifed our sins at the cross bringing us back to God taking away our seperation from Him. He made us righteous again so that we no longer need the law, but that righteousness comes by faith. The proof of our faith is obedience to the law. Now if we are obedient to the law through faith then we no longer need the law, the law would be for those that are disobedient through unbelief. Those that try and keep the law in themselves can never please God because the law wars against the felsh (our sinful nature). The only way to keep the law is through a trusting relationship with God. The obedience of Christ is givin to us already that comes by faith. and when that faith comes we no longer need the schoolmaster.
For and example if you don't lie and has never lied to anyone for any reason then the law "Thou shalt not bear false witness" does not apply to you because it is for those that lie not for those that don't. If you don't steel then the law "Thou shalt not steel" does not apply to you only to those that steel. Now if you keep the whole law then it does not apply to you only to those that don't obey the law.
You have no power in yourself to obey the law so "by the works of the law shall no flesh be justfied" for Christ has already given you His perfect obedience to the law which does not come by the works of the law, but from faith. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Now if we say that we have faith and continue in disobedience we are lying to ourselves because, righteousness comes by faith not disobedience.
Galatians 3:24,25 "Wherefore the law was our schoollmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come we are no longer under a shcoolmaster."
Also Romans 3:20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."
If the law brings knowledge then it is a teacher.
Here is how it works.
Jesus crucifed our sins at the cross bringing us back to God taking away our seperation from Him. He made us righteous again so that we no longer need the law, but that righteousness comes by faith. The proof of our faith is obedience to the law. Now if we are obedient to the law through faith then we no longer need the law, the law would be for those that are disobedient through unbelief. Those that try and keep the law in themselves can never please God because the law wars against the felsh (our sinful nature). The only way to keep the law is through a trusting relationship with God. The obedience of Christ is givin to us already that comes by faith. and when that faith comes we no longer need the schoolmaster.
For and example if you don't lie and has never lied to anyone for any reason then the law "Thou shalt not bear false witness" does not apply to you because it is for those that lie not for those that don't. If you don't steel then the law "Thou shalt not steel" does not apply to you only to those that steel. Now if you keep the whole law then it does not apply to you only to those that don't obey the law.
You have no power in yourself to obey the law so "by the works of the law shall no flesh be justfied" for Christ has already given you His perfect obedience to the law which does not come by the works of the law, but from faith. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Now if we say that we have faith and continue in disobedience we are lying to ourselves because, righteousness comes by faith not disobedience.
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So once you come to Christ why do you need the law to continue teaching you to come to Christ????The last text that I gave to you says just that.
Galatians 3:24,25 "Wherefore the law was our schoollmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come we are no longer under a shcoolmaster."
Also Romans 3:20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."
If the law brings knowledge then it is a teacher.
PJim we disagree, you can look to the old covenant law of Moses for guidance but I will look to HolySpirit for guidance.
Here is how it works.
Jesus crucifed our sins at the cross bringing us back to God taking away our seperation from Him. He made us righteous again so that we no longer need the law, but that righteousness comes by faith. The proof of our faith is obedience to the law. Now if we are obedient to the law through faith then we no longer need the law, the law would be for those that are disobedient through unbelief. Those that try and keep the law in themselves can never please God because the law wars against the felsh (our sinful nature). The only way to keep the law is through a trusting relationship with God. The obedience of Christ is givin to us already that comes by faith. and when that faith comes we no longer need the schoolmaster.
See Jim here you go again about keeping the law, the same law that Paul says has been put away by God.
Look here at what Paul says about keeping the law.
So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don't get tied up again in slavery to the law. Listen! I, Paul, tell you this: If you are counting on circumcision to make you right with God, then Christ will be of no benefit to you. I'll say it again. If you are trying to find favor with God by being circumcised, you must obey every regulation in the whole law of Moses. For if you are trying to make yourselves right with God by keeping the law, you have been cut off from Christ! You have fallen away from God's grace. Gal.5:1-4
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but the ten commandments can be very helpful when trying to fight sin.
I've found that all my efforts to obey the Ten Commandments availed very little. Only when I asked Jesus to be my Lord and Savior and His Spirit took up residence in my heart did I begin to change, to move away from old behaviors and toward the behaviors God wants to birth in me.
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Love this stuff.
That's the way JiggyFly do not let him get away.
The Gentiles were not given the law, nor did they have to conduct a sacrifice. We Gentiles did not receive a temple either. No priestly class or patriarchs.
Avoid speaking of the Ten Commandments as if they exist alone apart from all the other laws that were given to Israel. This law was part of the Old Covenant God had with Israel, not with the Gentiles.
You will find if you search through the book of acts, that the apostles conducted a special meeting (Jerusalem Council). This meeting was to determine just what rules applied to the Gentiles now that they were in Christ.
Answer, they advised the Gentiles to avoid sexual immorality.
There was no mention of the Law, how could there be? They were not Jews.
If you want to quote from the book of Romans be very careful, Paul spends considerable time on explaining the Jewish aspect. Many people err when quoting from Romans.
Gentiles have no use for the law, our Holy Spirit convicts us of sin, etc.
That's the way JiggyFly do not let him get away.
The Gentiles were not given the law, nor did they have to conduct a sacrifice. We Gentiles did not receive a temple either. No priestly class or patriarchs.
Avoid speaking of the Ten Commandments as if they exist alone apart from all the other laws that were given to Israel. This law was part of the Old Covenant God had with Israel, not with the Gentiles.
You will find if you search through the book of acts, that the apostles conducted a special meeting (Jerusalem Council). This meeting was to determine just what rules applied to the Gentiles now that they were in Christ.
Answer, they advised the Gentiles to avoid sexual immorality.
There was no mention of the Law, how could there be? They were not Jews.
If you want to quote from the book of Romans be very careful, Paul spends considerable time on explaining the Jewish aspect. Many people err when quoting from Romans.
Gentiles have no use for the law, our Holy Spirit convicts us of sin, etc.
SpiritLedEd, that is what I have been trying to say.
We don't try and keep the law to get closer to God, but when we get closer to God our lives change and He gives us the power to keep the law.
Righteousness can only come by faith not by works of the law, but obedience is fruit of our faith.
We cannot work our way into heaven by trying to keep the law it is a gift of God.
Obedience to the law is also a gift of God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Your own experience is proof of this.
Sin is seperation from God which manifests itself through disobedience to the law. All we have to do to keep the law is to increase our relationship with God. When we come to the fulness of the faith then there is no point in the law for it only tells us of our seperation from God. If there is no seperation then there is no law.
There isn't one person that truly comes to Christ that hasn't had a dramatic change into thier life. What you could not do in the flesh you are able to do in the Spirit of Christ. Wouldn't you agree?
We don't try and keep the law to get closer to God, but when we get closer to God our lives change and He gives us the power to keep the law.
Righteousness can only come by faith not by works of the law, but obedience is fruit of our faith.
We cannot work our way into heaven by trying to keep the law it is a gift of God.
Obedience to the law is also a gift of God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Your own experience is proof of this.
Sin is seperation from God which manifests itself through disobedience to the law. All we have to do to keep the law is to increase our relationship with God. When we come to the fulness of the faith then there is no point in the law for it only tells us of our seperation from God. If there is no seperation then there is no law.
There isn't one person that truly comes to Christ that hasn't had a dramatic change into thier life. What you could not do in the flesh you are able to do in the Spirit of Christ. Wouldn't you agree?
That's the way JiggyFly do not let him get away.
The Gentiles were not given the law, nor did they have to conduct a sacrifice. We Gentiles did not receive a temple either. No priestly class or patriarchs.
Avoid speaking of the Ten Commandments as if they exist alone apart from all the other laws that were given to Israel. This law was part of the Old Covenant God had with Israel, not with the Gentiles.
You will find if you search through the book of acts, that the apostles conducted a special meeting (Jerusalem Council). This meeting was to determine just what rules applied to the Gentiles now that they were in Christ.
Answer, they advised the Gentiles to avoid sexual immorality.
There was no mention of the Law, how could there be? They were not Jews.
If you want to quote from the book of Romans be very careful, Paul spends considerable time on explaining the Jewish aspect. Many people err when quoting from Romans.
Gentiles have no use for the law, our Holy Spirit convicts us of sin, etc.
Exactly David but some are so bound by religion that they try to change what Paul was saying in the attempt to keep the flesh enrolled.
When a debt has been paid in full is it logical to continue to make payments? I believe it is dishonest to collect more than once on a debt especially after it has been paid. Seems many still fail to understand what Jesus did for us on the cross and out of ignorance make it something far less and inadequate.
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If sin is still separating people from God than some of the apostles were mistaken about the works of Jesus the Christ.
The apostle John quoted John the baptist saying; "The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!" John 1:29
For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with human hands, which was only a copy of the true one in heaven. He entered into heaven itself to appear now before God on our behalf. And he did not enter heaven to offer himself again and again, like the high priest here on earth who enters the Most Holy Place year after year with the blood of an animal. If that had been necessary, Christ would have had to die again and again, ever since the world began. But now, once for all time, he has appeared at the end of the age to remove sin by his own death as a sacrifice.
And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment, so also Christ died once for all time as a sacrifice to take away the sins of many people. He will come again, not to deal with our sins, but to bring salvation to all who are eagerly waiting for him. Heb 9:24-28 (NLT)
For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ, and through him God reconciled everything to himself. He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.
This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions. Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault. Col 1:19-22 (NLT)
Notice that Paul speaks of the works of Christ's cross in past tense. Either Christ sufficiently dealt with sin victoriously or He did not, I personally agree with the apostles and scripture in that Christ was victorious in carrying out Father's plan.
The apostle John quoted John the baptist saying; "The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!" John 1:29
For Christ did not enter into a holy place made with human hands, which was only a copy of the true one in heaven. He entered into heaven itself to appear now before God on our behalf. And he did not enter heaven to offer himself again and again, like the high priest here on earth who enters the Most Holy Place year after year with the blood of an animal. If that had been necessary, Christ would have had to die again and again, ever since the world began. But now, once for all time, he has appeared at the end of the age to remove sin by his own death as a sacrifice.
And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment, so also Christ died once for all time as a sacrifice to take away the sins of many people. He will come again, not to deal with our sins, but to bring salvation to all who are eagerly waiting for him. Heb 9:24-28 (NLT)
For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ, and through him God reconciled everything to himself. He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.
This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions. Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault. Col 1:19-22 (NLT)
Notice that Paul speaks of the works of Christ's cross in past tense. Either Christ sufficiently dealt with sin victoriously or He did not, I personally agree with the apostles and scripture in that Christ was victorious in carrying out Father's plan.
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David777
Let me ask you something.
Did Jesus keep the commandments of God, the ones written with His own finger?
Is Jesus our example in all things? Dosen't the bible say "let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus?"
How can He be our example if He kept the commandments and we don't have to?
Was Christ not the savior of the Jews and the Gentiles? Isn't He the saviour of all that believe? Didn't He save us from sin? Dosen't the bible tell us what sin is?
Dosen't the Holy Spirit convict us of sin and our need of the Saviour?
Again dosen't the bible tell us what sin is?
Dosen't it say that sin is transgression of the law? 1John 3:4
If the law teaches us the character of Christ which is love why would it be different for the Jew and Gentile? Did not Peter teach the Gospel to both Jews and Gentiles and didn't Paul do the same? Did they preach a different gospel to the Jews then they did to the Gentiles? No they preached one message to both Jews and Gentiles. It is one gospel for all. The truth is for all mankind, God is no respecter of persons. If the law teaches us Love why isn't the law for the Gentiles? Don't the Gentiles need to love God with all of thier hearts and thier nieghbor as themselves? Isn't this what the law teaches?
Didn't Jesus say that the new covenant is that He will write His laws in our minds and our hearts?
If you will have an open mind and allow me to show you a wonderful truth in God's word I can show you why the Gospel is truly the good news. At least allow me that chance and after you understand all that I share so that you understand as I do then go and prove wether or not it is true. But if you come with a spirit of argument then we cannot continue farther. If you choose to listen then I suggest you earnestly pray for God's guidence and for the Holy Spirit. The truth that I share is the same truth that prepares you to meet Jesus face to face whithout seeing death.
Let me ask you something.
Did Jesus keep the commandments of God, the ones written with His own finger?
Is Jesus our example in all things? Dosen't the bible say "let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus?"
How can He be our example if He kept the commandments and we don't have to?
Was Christ not the savior of the Jews and the Gentiles? Isn't He the saviour of all that believe? Didn't He save us from sin? Dosen't the bible tell us what sin is?
Dosen't the Holy Spirit convict us of sin and our need of the Saviour?
Again dosen't the bible tell us what sin is?
Dosen't it say that sin is transgression of the law? 1John 3:4
If the law teaches us the character of Christ which is love why would it be different for the Jew and Gentile? Did not Peter teach the Gospel to both Jews and Gentiles and didn't Paul do the same? Did they preach a different gospel to the Jews then they did to the Gentiles? No they preached one message to both Jews and Gentiles. It is one gospel for all. The truth is for all mankind, God is no respecter of persons. If the law teaches us Love why isn't the law for the Gentiles? Don't the Gentiles need to love God with all of thier hearts and thier nieghbor as themselves? Isn't this what the law teaches?
Didn't Jesus say that the new covenant is that He will write His laws in our minds and our hearts?
If you will have an open mind and allow me to show you a wonderful truth in God's word I can show you why the Gospel is truly the good news. At least allow me that chance and after you understand all that I share so that you understand as I do then go and prove wether or not it is true. But if you come with a spirit of argument then we cannot continue farther. If you choose to listen then I suggest you earnestly pray for God's guidence and for the Holy Spirit. The truth that I share is the same truth that prepares you to meet Jesus face to face whithout seeing death.
Your absolutely right jiggyfly, that is why righteousness comes by faith.
Jesus has already dealt with the sin problem, He has already suffered for our sins. In Him we become righteousness with His righteousness, not by our works of the law but by His works are we saved. All I have been saying is when Jesus comes into our hearts His works of obedience comes with Him. The proof that He is working in us is by the fruits of obedience. I know you have already experienced this in your own life. You are not the same man as when you first came to Christ. He is changing you with His character and taking out your old character. The work of His obiedence is already working in you. The Holy Spirit convicts you of sin the law just tells you what sin is.
Jesus has already dealt with the sin problem, He has already suffered for our sins. In Him we become righteousness with His righteousness, not by our works of the law but by His works are we saved. All I have been saying is when Jesus comes into our hearts His works of obedience comes with Him. The proof that He is working in us is by the fruits of obedience. I know you have already experienced this in your own life. You are not the same man as when you first came to Christ. He is changing you with His character and taking out your old character. The work of His obiedence is already working in you. The Holy Spirit convicts you of sin the law just tells you what sin is.
Jiggyfly
All I'm trying to do is expand what you already know. To give you a greater understanding and the true power of faith. So you know more of the fullness of what Jesus did at the cross. If you go back and read my first post you will find that my first statements were in agreence with what your last post stated. You are the one that made this about law I was trying to state relationship and how powerful that relationship with God is.
My only objective is to bring this world to a close and prepare for the coming of the Lord.
I understand what you understand I just want to give you a greater knowledge of the truth. There is always more to learn, I imagine we have only begun to scratch the surface.
All I'm trying to do is expand what you already know. To give you a greater understanding and the true power of faith. So you know more of the fullness of what Jesus did at the cross. If you go back and read my first post you will find that my first statements were in agreence with what your last post stated. You are the one that made this about law I was trying to state relationship and how powerful that relationship with God is.
My only objective is to bring this world to a close and prepare for the coming of the Lord.
I understand what you understand I just want to give you a greater knowledge of the truth. There is always more to learn, I imagine we have only begun to scratch the surface.
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a bad deed, no matter how seemingly insignificant, is a bad deed nevertheless
Your absolutely right jiggyfly, that is why righteousness comes by faith.
Jesus has already dealt with the sin problem, He has already suffered for our sins. In Him we become righteousness with His righteousness, not by our works of the law but by His works are we saved. All I have been saying is when Jesus comes into our hearts His works of obedience comes with Him. The proof that He is working in us is by the fruits of obedience. I know you have already experienced this in your own life. You are not the same man as when you first came to Christ. He is changing you with His character and taking out your old character. The work of His obiedence is already working in you. The Holy Spirit convicts you of sin the law just tells you what sin is.
Your going in circles now, your posts are contradictory to each other and with scripture. I am not going to argue with you about the law. The scriptures declare it has been put away by God. I know you are having trouble grasping this but please go and study and refrain from trying to teach the contrary here at TJ.
Hello Papajim.
You said,
"We don't try and keep the law to get closer to God, but when we get closer to God our lives change and He gives us the power to keep the law."
Is this what Romans Chapter 8 teaches Papajim. You can obey the Law?
Let's have a look and see,
" 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." (Romans 8:1-4, NKJB)
Jesus Christ has given us life, He is our righteousness! In Him we achieve perfection. So as a Christian I am justified in Christ, in Him alone.
Does that mean that I can obey the Law? No, the moment i try i fail, because i have to obey all the law do i not! The law gives sin power that kills, if i think i can obey the law i die. A Christian can never obey the law, Christians are forgiven, they have not the ability to obey the law. Our flesh is dead, we are dead, our life is in the spirit, in Christ.
If i look at a woman and lust, should i not pluck my eye out? Is this written in the law? I have not broken the written law Papajim! Still the flesh has failed. Sin became alive without the law???
Perhaps this is the conviction of the Holy Spirit is it not.
You can obey the law in Christ, no you cannot. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law, not you Papajim.
You said,
"We don't try and keep the law to get closer to God, but when we get closer to God our lives change and He gives us the power to keep the law."
Is this what Romans Chapter 8 teaches Papajim. You can obey the Law?
Let's have a look and see,
" 1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." (Romans 8:1-4, NKJB)
Jesus Christ has given us life, He is our righteousness! In Him we achieve perfection. So as a Christian I am justified in Christ, in Him alone.
Does that mean that I can obey the Law? No, the moment i try i fail, because i have to obey all the law do i not! The law gives sin power that kills, if i think i can obey the law i die. A Christian can never obey the law, Christians are forgiven, they have not the ability to obey the law. Our flesh is dead, we are dead, our life is in the spirit, in Christ.
If i look at a woman and lust, should i not pluck my eye out? Is this written in the law? I have not broken the written law Papajim! Still the flesh has failed. Sin became alive without the law???
Perhaps this is the conviction of the Holy Spirit is it not.
You can obey the law in Christ, no you cannot. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the law, not you Papajim.
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