Trinity

[Curtis]

No such thing as flesh of eternal life.

1Co 15:53 For this perishable [part of us] must put on the imperishable [nature], and this mortal [part of us, this nature that is capable of dying] must put on immortality (freedom from death).
1Co 15:54 And when this perishable puts on the imperishable and this that was capable of dying puts on freedom from death, then shall be fulfilled the Scripture that says, Death is swallowed up (utterly vanquished  N1 forever) in and unto victory. [Isa 25:8]

 

[Garee]

Yeah, when God said, "let there be light," it's not like he suddenly flipped a switch, he was ALREADY the source of light, and now the light shone upon the darkness and illuminated the earth.

Thanks. I would offer the word three began being used to represent in parables "the end of a matter. " and continues through the last chapter Revelation.

Day three God saw sin as false pride in lucifer . . death the whole creation began . The glory of God as the light of God departed and he turned on the switch on "let there be" the two temporal lights (under the Sun) .

Eziaha 28: 23-26 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

On the last day under the Sun (temporal time) the new heavens and earth will again be illuminated by the Holy Spirit (God is Light) .Then there will be no night as darkness forevermore.

Revalation 21:23-26 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof. And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there. And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.


Isaiah 60:19 The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the Lord shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.

Isaiah 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the Lord bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

 

[Garee]

You can not become a son of God if you were not born of a woman (water), and of the Spirit.

Thanks, yes marvel not a person must be born again from above.


The sons or daughters of men are born of woman. Born again sons of God born of the Spirit of God . Water is used to represent the works of the Holy Spirit as doctrines coming down like rain .Not earthly inspired of dying mankind.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Worship is in human nature, everyone worships consciously or subconsciously, but just because you worship a supreme being whom you think is God doesn't mean you're really worshipping God the eternal creator of the universe. God made man in God's image, man made god(s) in man's image. When we deal with abstract concepts or intangible things, we tend to put a name and a face on it to make it easier to process, that is also in human nature, and God knows that, communicating through Moses and all the other prophets is not enough. For this reason, He personally incarnated into a man that is Jesus and "dwelt among us", that was the plan since the very beginning, and through Jesus and ONLY through Jesus can God be worshipped properly.

Dear Jonathan,
Then may you should have added the word "properly" to your initial comment when you said, "God as an all consuming fire cannot be worshipped," I never would have commented then, for we would have been in agreement!

As far as incarnated into the man Jesus, I agree with you as long as you can agree that He was born without the seed of Joseph/man, and so also Divine.
If so, we are a lot closer than it appears. (Hopeful) Otherwise, no, your Jesus is not my Jesus. (Sad)

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Nick
\o/
<><

 

[Garee]

1Co 15:53 For this perishable [part of us] must put on the imperishable [nature], and this mortal [part of us, this nature that is capable of dying] must put on immortality (freedom from death).
1Co 15:54 And when this perishable puts on the imperishable and this that was capable of dying puts on freedom from death, then shall be fulfilled the Scripture that says, Death is swallowed up (utterly vanquished  N1 forever) in and unto victory. [Isa 25:8]

Yes the perishable seed in Adam all die and must put on the imperishable seed Christ. by which we live as sons of God . . We are not what we will be neither male nor female Jew nor Gentile. when we receive. the imperishable bodies.

First the birth of a new spirit (born again) then the body. "Let there be" and it seen was good the testimony God spoke.

 

[only son]

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We must go to the original manuscripts of scriptures to understand the truth that Yahashua, the Anointing / Jesus - Is “ God “ himself manifested in flesh.

Notice the passage here in - Col 2:9

:9 For in him { Jesus } dwelled all the fulfillment of the divinity bodily.

The scriptures explain how God manifested his divinity on earth, within this man : Jesus : was the Spirit of the Father manifested in the flesh, this man was a physical manifestation of God’s invisible spirit which was the fulfillment,

fulfillment - meaning = the completion, accomplishment, performance, achievement, - of God’s divinity to mankind, the fulfillment of the divinity bodily.

This Greek word Divinity / Divine
“ divinity “ has a meaning that is much more than to just simply posses an attribute of deification, worship veneration, glorification, exaltation, and worship


But the word “ DIVINITY “ applied to the God of the Bible indicates his Omniscience, all knowing - and power of divinization, knowledge of the future discerning, forecasting, foretelling, perceiving and prophesy as fore - knowledge

God is a spirit, invisible and unseen and cannot be seen, therefore this is explained further in Rom 1:20

:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and divinity ; - so that they are without excuse:

So….. Jesus Christ was born, conceived by the Spirit, Holy - so that mankind can clearly see and understand - the Spirit’s eternal power and divinity


Heb 1: 1 – 2 explains
:1 Many ways, also various ways, long ago the God spoke to their fathers

:2 in their prophets unto these last of days, of these, he spoke to them in his son upon whom is given heir, of whom also this is forever done

:3 Who being the emanation / radiating of his glory, and the express image of his confidence , and upholding all things by the word of his power,


Jesus is the glory and confidence that has been emanated / flowed out, issued out, or proceeded out , come forth from the spirit of God and the purpose of Jesus was to - by himself, purge our sins and sat down in the right of the Majesty in high; - his son is given heir to the throne of God because the son literally has emanated / flowed out, issued out, or proceeded out , come forth ( OUT OF ) from the spirit of God

:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
Jesus is the called literally - THE ANOINTING - THE CHRIST - he is the literal anointing of the Spirit, Holy Of God, - the spirit of the Father

The Greek word CHRIST means Anointing or Anointed - in him { Jesus } dwelled all the fulfillment of the divinity bodily.
- the Spirit of God - was the very Spirit of Yahashua.

As Peter clearly says in 1Pe 1:10 “ CONCERNING THE SPIRIT OF GOD INSIDE THE OLD TESTAMENT PROPHETS “

:10 The prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
:11 Searching what, or what manner of time “ THE SPIRIT OF THE ANOINTING / CHRIST “ WHICH WAS IN THEM - did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of THE ANOINTING / CHRIST :

We see clearly that the very same Spirit of Jesus himself, was the very same Spirit that had been previously been sent to earth - as “ THE SPIRIT OF ANOINTING “ - – in / inside the prophets in the Old testament..Jesus was made to benefit mankind because he is the ANOINTING of the Spirit, Holy -- BEING THE LITERAL ANOINTING OF GOD - MEANS - the installation, placement, application, positioning, stationing, appointment, applying of the Spirit, Holy Of The God in our lives.

To apply to be the application

His Spirit is the invisible Spirit, Holy of the Father Creator in the manifestation, form of what is being applied, ANOINTED - placed, applied, positioned, stationed, appointed, working, rubbing, moving anointing - the idea of contact; to smear or rub with oil, to handle); to furnish what is needed; , to apply and to use.

This is the role of Jesus the Anointing that Gods Spirit has applied HIS SACRIFICE for our salvation and also for communication to Him, the eternal spirit, Jesus is the eternal God because his very spirit was the Spirit, Holy In the beginning was the word that is the creative power and creating force of the Spirit of God,

this word, that is God himself, this word is creating literally creating and conceiving itself as a manifestation of the Spirit, Holy, the Father conceiving himself - in the womb of a woman - the word was with God - the word was God - the word was made flesh.

Here in - 1Pe 1:2, - The ““ SPIRIT OF GOD HIMSELF ““ - has sanctified the blood of Jesus Christ unto obedience and the blood of the Spirit, Holy has been showered and sprinkled literally as Jesus himself - ““ The Anointing ““

1Pe 1:2 through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Act 20:28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Spirit Holy hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased WITH HIS OWN BLOOD

Jesus is literally the blood of the Spirit, Holy - whom the Spirit of God himself had conceived as himself - God’s very own spirit conceived himself in the likeness of sinful flesh.

Heb 13:12 Therefore also Jesus that sanctified by his own blood the people outside the gate, suffered

This is why it was important for God to conceive himself formed as the manifestation or form / morph of Jesus, the anointing of his Spirit, Holy. His blood was sanctified by the eternal spirit of the Father, the Spirit Of The Holy that dwelled in him.

Heb 13:12 διο Therefore - και also - ιησους Jesus - ινα that - αγιαση sanctified - δια by - του his - ιδιου own - αιματος blood - τον the - λαον people - εξω ouside - της the - πυλης gate,, - επαθεν suffered

 

[Rejoice evermore.]

According to the Word of God (which is able to make us wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus), there was no one in the beginning with God. It is written:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
— (John 1:1-3).

There is only one person mentioned here. It is God, even the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort. Words do not come out of a woman's womb, neither does a Son come out of a man's mouth. God the Father is the only true God. Jesus Christ said:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
— (John 17:3).

God hath said that there is no God beside him:

"...Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any."
— (Isaiah 44:8).

Therefore, bibles which say "He was in the beginning with God" in John 1:2 ought to be cast to the dunghill.

 

[Searchingtoo]

According to the Word of God (which is able to make us wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus), there was no one in the beginning with God. It is written:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
— (John 1:1-3).

There is only one person mentioned here. It is God, even the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort. Words do not come out of a woman's womb, neither does a Son come out of a man's mouth. God the Father is the only true God. Jesus Christ said:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
— (John 17:3).

God hath said that there is no God beside him:

"...Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any."
— (Isaiah 44:8).

Therefore, bibles which say "He was in the beginning with God" in John 1:2 ought to be cast to the dunghill.

 

[Searchingtoo]

John 1:1. Why do I get the felling you've heard this before? As far as John 1:1, I think you would agree that anytime that the definite article is used before Theos that this is speaking about "the God" Jehovah, the almighty God and true God. If the definite article is not before Theos then it could be a different god, "god" as Strong's says. Such as Acts 12:22; 28:3-6 "It is a god speaking." “He is a god.” Looks like it is in harmony with both Greek grammar and Bible teaching to speak of the Word as, not God, but “a god" as in John 1:1. John used the definite article before Logos each time (the Word)and before Theon when talking about Almight God (the God), but not before Thoes (god) when talking about Jesus to show he was not "the God". I don't think he did this by mistake or that he was careless. You might say he was inspired by God. You believe that don't you. Besides if the Word was with God, he couldn't be God.

John 1:14 he is called "the only begotten of the Father " and John 1:18 says he is "the only begotten son", which Strong's says means "only born". Do you disagree with Strong's Exhaustive Concordance? Now if John said he was the "only begotten" which can only mean only born, then he had a beginning. God had no beginning.

If you read my previous post you can see some of the other reasons Jesus could not be Almighty God.

In Coptic, which the New Testament was written in around AD 180, there is a choice of the definite or indefinite article which is significant. Whereas in the Greek New Testament, the anarthrous theos, i.e., "god" without the Greek definite article, may mean either "God" or "a god" depending on context, Sahidic Coptic grammar has both the definite and the indefinite article , and the use of either Coptic article with a common or count noun like noute, "god," does have significance.

When God Almighty is the specific referent, the Coptic definite article is used routinely in the Sahidic Coptic New Testament.

The Sahidic Coptic translators had a choice at John 1:1c as to which bound construction to use, a definite one or an indefinite one. If they understood the Greek text to say "the Word was God" they would have used the Coptic definite article. They did not have to use the Coptic indefinite article unless they understood the Greek to actually say "the Word was a god".

Therefore, the fact that they did use the Coptic indefinite article at John 1:1c is very significant.

This is the word for word from Coptic to English:
he was existing, namely the Word and the Word in the presence of he was existing the God and was a god is the Word

The Egyptian theologian Origen (c. 185-254) was roughly contemporaneous with the Egyptian Sahidic Coptic translators. Origen was born in Alexandria, Egypt, and taught there for a while. In his Commentary on the Gospel of John he says: "We next notice John's use of of the [Greek] article in these sentences. He does not write without care in this respect, nor is he unfamiliar with the niceties of the Greek tongue....He uses the [Greek definite] article when the name of God refers to the uncreated cause of all things, and omits it when the Logos ["the Word"] is named God...as God who is over all is God with the article, not without it."

On top of all this the Jews nor 1st century Christians who walked and talked to Jesus did not believe in a trinity. Paul warned that "For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. That is exactly what happened and how we got so many false teachings in the church today.

 

[Waggles]

Psalm 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
God > 'ĕlôhı̂ym gods > 'ĕlôhı̂ym [same word for both]
Psalm 135:5 For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.

Jesus is often referred to as the angel of the LORD and yet scripture teaches that this is equivalent to YHWH appearing and speaking -

Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush was burning, yet it was not consumed.
3:3 And Moses said, “I will turn aside to see this great sight, why the bush is not burned.”
3:4 When the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called to him out of the bush, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.”
3:5 Then he said, “Do not come near; take your sandals off your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground.”
3:6 And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

This is repeated more than once in the OT - the angel of YHWH (the LORD) appearing and speaking directly to persons - and then followed by the claim of 'I have seen YHWH'

Judges 6:11 Now the angel of the LORD came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites.
6:12 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him and said to him, “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valour.”
6:14 And the LORD turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; do not I send you?”
6:16 And the LORD said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.”
6:22 Then Gideon perceived that he was the angel of the LORD. And Gideon said, “Alas, O Lord GOD! For now I have seen the angel of the LORD face to face.”
6:23 But the LORD said to him, “Peace be to you. Do not fear; you shall not die.”

 

[Searchingtoo]

Psalm 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:
God > 'ĕlôhı̂ym gods > 'ĕlôhı̂ym [same word for both]
Psalm 135:5 For I know that the LORD is great, and that our Lord is above all gods.

Jesus is often referred to as the angel of the LORD and yet scripture teaches that this is equivalent to YHWH appearing and speaking -

Exodus 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush was burning, yet it was not consumed.
3:3 And Moses said, “I will turn aside to see this great sight, why the bush is not burned.”
3:4 When the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called to him out of the bush, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.”
3:5 Then he said, “Do not come near; take your sandals off your feet, for the place on which you are standing is holy ground.”
3:6 And he said, “I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.” And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God.

This is repeated more than once in the OT - the angel of YHWH (the LORD) appearing and speaking directly to persons - and then followed by the claim of 'I have seen YHWH'

Judges 6:11 Now the angel of the LORD came and sat under the terebinth at Ophrah, which belonged to Joash the Abiezrite, while his son Gideon was beating out wheat in the winepress to hide it from the Midianites.
6:12 And the angel of the LORD appeared to him and said to him, “The LORD is with you, O mighty man of valour.”
6:14 And the LORD turned to him and said, “Go in this might of yours and save Israel from the hand of Midian; do not I send you?”
6:16 And the LORD said to him, “But I will be with you, and you shall strike the Midianites as one man.”
6:22 Then Gideon perceived that he was the angel of the LORD. And Gideon said, “Alas, O Lord GOD! For now I have seen the angel of the LORD face to face.”
6:23 But the LORD said to him, “Peace be to you. Do not fear; you shall not die.”

I don't know what you are even trying to say this bunch of scriptures that mean nothing as far as Jesus being God. I just listed scripture that show why Jesus could not be God, even one where Jesus himself said that only his Father was only God.

 

[Searchingtoo]

According to the Word of God (which is able to make us wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus), there was no one in the beginning with God. It is written:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."
— (John 1:1-3).

There is only one person mentioned here. It is God, even the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort. Words do not come out of a woman's womb, neither does a Son come out of a man's mouth. God the Father is the only true God. Jesus Christ said:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."
— (John 17:3).

God hath said that there is no God beside him:

"...Is there a God beside me? Yea, there is no God; I know not any."
— (Isaiah 44:8).

Therefore, bibles which say "He was in the beginning with God" in John 1:2 ought to be cast to the dunghill.

You must want to throw every translation out because I just looked at 25 and they all say he was "with God" in both verse 1 and verse 2. Seems like all the scholars agree that Jesus was with God in the beginning and if he was with God he couldn't be God. The fact that God said "beside me there is no God" of course that would mean even Jesus is not God. But I just showed you a bunch of scriptures that prove that. Ignore them like you do John 1:1,2 if you want.

 

[Rejoice evermore.]

You must want to throw every translation out because I just looked at 25 and they all say he was "with God" in both verse 1 and verse 2.

Indeed, my confused friend. They all belong in a dunghill. In English, the KJV is the Word of God.

Seems like all the scholars agree that Jesus was with God in the beginning and if he was with God he couldn't be God.

I am fully aware of that, sir. And what saith the scripture regarding those many ministries of satan?

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE is the gate, and BROAD is the way, that leadeth to DESTRUCTION, and MANY there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

In those brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed is fulfilled the scripture which saith:

But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

My friend, depart from their folly and live I beseech you.

Come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

 

[Rhema]

Liddell and Scott’s A Greek-English Lexicon, in its new ninth edition, completed in 1940 and reprinted in 1948, Volume I, defines the two terms in the light of ancient usages apart from the Scriptures. Theiótes it defines as “divine nature, divinity” (page 788). Theótes it defines in exactly the same way, as “divinity, divine nature,” and then cites as an example Colossians 2:9. In this connection it shows that the similar Greek expression, dia theóteta, means “for religious reasons.”

Hi there,

Thought I'd be helpful and provide a link to your entry from the Liddell Scott Lexicon, as it is available online - G2320 θεότης (THEOTES)

Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, θεότης

www.perseus.tufts.edu

- A.divinity, divine nature, Ep.Col.2.9, Plu.2.359d, Luc. Icar.9, etc

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

I think you would agree that anytime that the definite article is used before Theos that this is speaking about "the God" Jehovah, the almighty God and true God. If the definite article is not before Theos then it could be a different god, "god"

No. And I believe any well-educated Bible scholar would not agree either.

The use of the definite article ("the") in Koine Greek is one of the most perplexing issues in translation. Even Dr. Daniel Wallace of (the) Dallas Theological Seminary has stated in lecture that he still doesn't understand its application, after decades of reading Greek.

As a modern example, the Brits say, "I'm going to hospital," while the Yanks say, "I'm going to the hospital." What's the difference? None. It's parlance, or metre, or cultural colloquialism, an adaptation of style similar to a "linguistic accent." To now make some kind of supernatural or divine insight out of this is... a bit delusional. It stretches credulity. Oh I get the desire and the attempt to ferret out rules within linguistic expression, but who here hasn't ended a sentence with a preposition?

Rhema

Although you likely know this, I just wanted to mention that there is no Indefinite Article in Greek. The word "a" just isn't in the language. English differentiates between "a" (thing) and "the" (thing), but how can one make such a differentiation if both words aren't available?

 

[Rhema]

Indeed, my confused friend. They all belong in a dunghill. In English, the KJV is the Word of God.

Since I see that you are from Stockholm, I'm afraid that I shall need to view your posts as somewhat lost in translation.

John 1:2 ουτος ην εν αρχη προς τον θεον​

So how ought one to render ουτος in English given that the gender of this word is masculine?

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

This is the word for word from Coptic to English:
he was existing, namely the Word and the Word in the presence of he was existing the God and was a god is the Word

I shall see your Coptic to English translation, and raise you the Aramaic.

ܒܪܫܝܬ ܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܗܘܐ ܡܠܬܐ ܘܗܘ ܡܠܬܐ ܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܗܘܐ ܠܘܬ ܐܠܗܐ ܘܐܠܗܐ ܐܝܬܘܗܝ ܗܘܐ ܗܘ ܡܠܬܐ​

​

1 In the beginning there was The Miltha {The Word}, and He, The Miltha {The Word}, was with Alaha {God}. And Alaha {God} Himself was The Miltha {The Word}.​

Rhema



( Let them figure out that colloquialism .... )

 

[Waggles]

I don't know what you are even trying to say this bunch of scriptures that mean nothing as far as Jesus being God. I just listed scripture that show why Jesus could not be God, even one where Jesus himself said that only his Father was only God.

Your understanding of scripture is obviously faulty.

 

[Searchingtoo]

Indeed, my confused friend. They all belong in a dunghill. In English, the KJV is the Word of God.


I am fully aware of that, sir. And what saith the scripture regarding those many ministries of satan?

Enter ye in at the strait gate: for WIDE is the gate, and BROAD is the way, that leadeth to DESTRUCTION, and MANY there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

In those brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed is fulfilled the scripture which saith:

But the word of the LORD was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

My friend, depart from their folly and live I beseech you.

Come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, and will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

So you think I'm confused? That's funny. Did you even read what the KJV says? It's one of the translations I looked at and it also says "with God" in verse 1 and 2.

 

[Searchingtoo]

Hi there,

Thought I'd be helpful and provide a link to your entry from the Liddell Scott Lexicon, as it is available online - G2320 θεότης (THEOTES)

Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon, θεότης

www.perseus.tufts.edu

- A.divinity, divine nature, Ep.Col.2.9, Plu.2.359d, Luc. Icar.9, etc

Rhema

Don't know what the point of that was.