Why do i not attend church?

[Hekuran]

Yes, I've always been much happier in smaller churches too.

There's lots of advantages to bigger churches, but large size it tends to be make caring ministries more difficult.

Having said that, the very first church in Jerusalem needed 12 people to oversee the distribution of food, so there must have been big numbers involved.

 

[Garee]

Well brother,you cracked this old mans eye a little.
That you said,takes my mind to Paul,"forsake not the assembling of yourselves together."
Now i have to rethink my stance on assemblies(churches). Shame on you.
And God bless

The not forsaking of the gathering together had to do with the Jews not gathering with other Jews . The 1st century reformation caused a gospel explosion .A great tribulation for the Jew that was trusting his flesh and great joy for the gentile .One like never before or ever again .

The bible informs us their must be heresies matters of opinion or called private interpretations (person comentarries) among us .The kingdom of God is not of the world we walk by the unseen things called faith . Christ's labor of loving working in us. .

The walls came down that seperated the Jewish women from the men who participated in the ceremonies as well as another wall separating the Gentiles from the Jews .

One new ceremonial law came (1 Corinthians 11)

Husband and wife equal a ministry . He sends us out two by two, Two is the witness God has spoken.

Where two or three a family gather together in the hearing of the word . . Christ is there . Two or three the smallest denomination, a family or tribe . Families or tribes gather together as one new family .

No such thing as non-denominational. Assemblies, more than one family through there ceremonies' are a sign to the world. Not to themselves in a hope of drawing people to the living word .

Paul had a home church ( Nazarene) but his gift was going out .Others remained in the more local for those needed to hear the gospel .Ultimately there must be differences as oral traditions as long as they do not do despite the fullness of grace the full price of redemption .

Neither reading the Bible or gathering oneself together with other families equals a person has been born for above.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Yes, I've always been much happier in smaller churches too.

There's lots of advantages to bigger churches, but large size it tends to be make caring ministries more difficult.

Having said that, the very first church in Jerusalem needed 12 people to oversee the distribution of food, so there must have been big numbers involved.

Quality over quantity!

 

[Waggles]

3John 1:5 Beloved, it is a faithful thing you do in all your efforts for these brothers, strangers as they are,
6 who testified to your love before the church. You will do well to send them on their journey in a manner worthy of God.
7 For they have gone out for the sake of the name, accepting nothing from the Gentiles.
8 Therefore we ought to support people like these, that we may be fellow workers for the truth.
9 I have written something to the church, but Diotrephes, who likes to put himself first, does not acknowledge our authority.
10 So if I come, I will bring up what he is doing, talking wicked nonsense against us. And not content with that, he refuses to welcome the brothers, and also stops those who want to and puts them out of the church.
11 Beloved, do not imitate evil but imitate good. Whoever does good is from God; whoever does evil has not seen God.
12 Demetrius has received a good testimony from everyone, and from the truth itself. We also add our testimony, and you know that our testimony is true.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

The not forsaking of the gathering together had to do with the Jews not gathering with other Jews . The 1st century reformation caused a gospel explosion .A great tribulation for the Jew that was trusting his flesh and great joy for the gentile .One like never before or ever again .

The bible informs us their must be heresies matters of opinion or called private interpretations (person comentarries) among us .The kingdom of God is not of the world we walk by the unseen things called faith . Christ's labor of loving working in us. .

The walls came down that seperated the Jewish women from the men who participated in the ceremonies as well as another wall separating the Gentiles from the Jews .

One new ceremonial law came (1 Corinthians 11)

Husband and wife equal a ministry . He sends us out two by two, Two is the witness God has spoken.

Where two or three a family gather together in the hearing of the word . . Christ is there . Two or three the smallest denomination, a family or tribe . Families or tribes gather together as one new family .

No such thing as non-denominational. Assemblies, more than one family through there ceremonies' are a sign to the world. Not to themselves in a hope of drawing people to the living word .

Paul had a home church ( Nazarene) but his gift was going out .Others remained in the more local for those needed to hear the gospel .Ultimately there must be differences as oral traditions as long as they do not do despite the fullness of grace the full price of redemption .

Neither reading the Bible or gathering oneself together with other families equals a person has been born for above.

Human is a social creature, no man is an island. Through weekly or more frequent gathering, we develop and maintain an active relationship with other parishoners. You serve and help them, then one day in time of need, they may return the favor. Also, this is one opportunity to get an earshot of new information, to learn what other people are REALLY thinking and what's new is REALLY going on. These days you ain't gonna get any of that from the supposedly omniscient Internet, Big Tech's censorship and algorithm will make sure that you only see what they want you to see. The only way to break our of your bubble is meeting other people in real life.

 

[Waggles]

The Church

The church isn't something made up by men. It's an institution ordained by God. The word most commonly translated as "church" is... ἐκκλησία ekklēsia ek-klay-see'-ah From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a...

www.talkjesus.com

 

[PloughBoy]

The Church

The church isn't something made up by men. It's an institution ordained by God. The word most commonly translated as "church" is... ἐκκλησία ekklēsia ek-klay-see'-ah From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a...

www.talkjesus.com

What ever Jesus States, is never good enough for man, Man has to always improve What GOD has Stated, God is Never good enough for man.

God said: upon this rock "I Will Build My Congregation" [ a building not made with hands, but by "GOD" and demons cannot enter it or any unclean shall come in, into it.]

But man said: that is not good enough Jesus , be it not so!
' We say UPON this Rock "we will Built your Church" {and every thing you can name has come into it, every foul beast in all the lands has come into it}
NASB 1977
And he cried out with a mighty voice, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great! And she has become a dwelling place of demons and a prison of every unclean spirit, and a prison of every unclean and hateful bird.


Jesus said: I will build My Congregation
Bishops' Bible of 1568
And I say also vnto thee, that thou art Peter, and vpon this rocke I wyll buylde my congregation: And the gates of hell shall not preuayle agaynst it.
Coverdale Bible of 1535
And I saie to ye: Thou art Peter, & vpo this rocke wil I builde my cogregacion: and ye gates of hell shal not preuayle agaynst it.
Tyndale Bible of 1526
And I saye also vnto the yt thou arte Peter: and apon this rocke I wyll bylde my congregacion. And the gates of hell shall not prevayle ageynst it.


We know better than you Jesus , we know the language much more better than you!
Man said that God said:
King James Bible
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

and every year they, the man changes the very English words that Jesus spoke.

And Prophecy has come to pass They will worship "The CHURCH" Which Is The IDOL and the object of all their affections"" and it will be "Their "GOD" It will be "' The Symbol" of Christianity.
But they do not believe "The Gospel According to Jesus Christ" that a kingdom divide among themselves Can not stand. Watch. "Christianity is divided among themselves. that "Idol" Cannot stand. it will Tumble over. "Watch"

They are so blinded that they cannot see that it is Divided and The light of "The Gospel of Jesus Christ" is shinning on it.

 

[PloughBoy]

God does not Dwell in Churches made by the hands of men, But the devil and demons do.

American Standard Version Acts 17: 24 KJV
The God that made the world and all things therein, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
25Nor is He served by human hands, as if He needed anything, because He Himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else.…


1 Corinthians 3:17
If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is holy, and you are that temple.

1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;


God is not in a building and he ain't going in there, if he do, he is A Liar! He can dwell in you and not be in the Building>

and if you have a problem with that, You just do not know GOD or The Power he has.

With God nothing is Impossible. He can be in you and not in the building that you are in. hello are you there?

 

[Waggles]

Psalm 133:1 A song of ascents. Of David. || Look, how good and how pleasant brothers dwell together in unity.
2 Like the fragrant oil upon the head, running down upon the beard, the beard of Aaron, that runs down upon the edges of his robes.

1Thess 4:9 But concerning brotherly love, I do not have need to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another,

 

[PloughBoy]

Psalm 133:1 A song of ascents. Of David. || Look, how good and how pleasant brothers dwell together in unity.
2 Like the fragrant oil upon the head, running down upon the beard, the beard of Aaron, that runs down upon the edges of his robes.

1Thess 4:9 But concerning brotherly love, I do not have need to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another,

So True:
" how good and how pleasant brothers dwell together in unity."

But:
Do Not Be Unequally Yoked
14Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? 15 What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? Or what does a believer have in common with an unbeliever?16What agreement can exist between the temple of God and idols? For we are The Temple Of The Living God. As God has said: “I will dwell with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be My people.”…

and, for sure God would not have us Ignorant to Our "True Brothers and Sisters who are In Christ" Our Father would not have us Ignorant to such "Wisdom" because he loves us and not them. "He is Angry with The wicked everyday" and Has Command us to have "No Fellowship with them"

Romans 8:9 ASV
" But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him."

 

[Waggles]

Hebrews 10:24 and let us consider one another unto provoking of love and good works;
25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is a custom of some, but exhorting; and so much the more, as ye see the day drawing nigh.

 

[Garee]

Hebrews 10:24 and let us consider one another unto provoking of love and good works;
25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is a custom of some, but exhorting; and so much the more, as ye see the day drawing nigh.

That I believe was speaking to the outward Jew thinking because of his jewish flesh he was part of a inward jew a born agin Christin .


Romans 2:29
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, (outward fleshly Jew) but of God.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

The families were being split a great tribulation for the Jew that trusted flesh the temporal. . one tribulation like never before or ever agin .


The believing Jews as Christian were not bringing the true fast defined in Isaiah 58. Not offering the gospel to its own family members . it is stil doing the work of separating the fleshly dying mankind from the born again living . the true fast.

Isaiah 58: 6-7 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

That I believe was speaking to the outward Jew thinking because of his jewish flesh he was part of a inward jew a born agin Christin .

What does this has to do with Jewishness? Are you suggesting that only certain Scripture is applicable to gentile Christians while others are only for the Jews -while in reality, "outward Jews" only accept the OT as their Scripture?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Hebrews 10:24 and let us consider one another unto provoking of love and good works;
25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is a custom of some, but exhorting; and so much the more, as ye see the day drawing nigh.

Don't bother to post random verses like this, man. The inconvenient truth is, what really weighs in the decision making process on whether to gather or not is your innermost desire. If you feel like your solitude is killing you inside, you can hardly breathe in the confines of the four walls, if you're really missing your fellow parishioners and sincerely concerned about their wellbeing, if you are desperately seeking to break out of your bubble and talk with somebody, then nothing can stop you from gathering; even if the governor issued a lockdown order, you'd risk jail sentence to gather; However, if you prioritize other businesses, either with your family members or other buddies or nobodies on the internet, while church gathering is put on a back burner, then you'll make up all kinds of excuses, including a twisted misinterpretation of these verses.

 

[Waggles]

Don't bother to post random verses like this, man. ... including a twisted misinterpretation of these verses.

(@[]@!!)

 

[Garee]

What does this has to do with Jewishness? Are you suggesting that only certain Scripture is applicable to gentile Christians while others are only for the Jews -while in reality, "outward Jews" only accept the OT as their Scripture?

I am in agreement with you .No division between Jew and Gentile

 

[Rhema]

YH does not tell His children to collect money for speaking the Word

So where did Jesus get his money from?

Donations from wealthy women.

There were also women looking on from a distance; among them were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome. These used to follow him and provided for him when he was in Galilee; and there were many other women who had come up with him to Jerusalem.​

(Mark 15:40-41 NRSV)​

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Many women were also there, looking on from a distance; they had followed Jesus from Galilee and had provided for him. Among them were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James and Joseph, and the mother of the sons of Zebedee.​

(Matthew 27:55-56 NRSV)​

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and Joanna, the wife of Herod's steward Chuza, and Susanna, and many others, who provided for them out of their resources.​

(Luke 8:3 NRSV)​

Rhema

 

[Waggles]

1Cor 9:4 Do we not have the right to eat and drink?
5 Do we not have the right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?
6 Or is it only Barnabas and I who have no right to refrain from working for a living?
7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk?
8 Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same?
9 For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned?
10 Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the ploughman should plough in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop.
11 If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?

1Tim 5:17 Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honour, especially those who labour in preaching and teaching.
18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The labourer deserves his wages.”

 

[Garee]

1Cor 9:4 Do we not have the right to eat and drink?
5 Do we not have the right to take along a believing wife, as do the other apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas?
6 Or is it only Barnabas and I who have no right to refrain from working for a living?
7 Who serves as a soldier at his own expense? Who plants a vineyard without eating any of its fruit? Or who tends a flock without getting some of the milk?
8 Do I say these things on human authority? Does not the Law say the same?
9 For it is written in the Law of Moses, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain.” Is it for oxen that God is concerned?
10 Does he not certainly speak for our sake? It was written for our sake, because the ploughman should plough in hope and the thresher thresh in hope of sharing in the crop.
11 If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?

1Tim 5:17 Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honour, especially those who labour in preaching and teaching.
18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and, “The labourer deserves his wages.”

Above is the order when more than one family gather together as a new family worshipping God together . Not a requirement of salvation but two get under the authority of God of families ..as it is written


Abraham meaning the father of all the nations of the world .His father was a Amorite and mother a Hittite. they became enemies of Israel .As a family became they one new family call a Jew . . The smallest sect is made up of two a tribe or family called a church the bride of Christ .

Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Ultimately there is no such things as a "sign gift" .I did it it proves it .We walk by faith after the unseen things of God the eternal not after the temporal things of mankind.

 

[Curtis]

You do not go to Church for you are the Church. Gathering together can be just within your own home, or other believers outside of any physical building. The Apostle Paul gathered together with other believers in the spirit being physically separated from them.

Col 2:4 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words.
Col 2:5 For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.