Why do i not attend church?

[lentz]

So,another reason i dont attend church:
Church members can be the meanest nastiest people. Not all,but majority. Even here. I have been on many secular forums.....firearms,music,westerns,
political,you name it. And i have to say,most of the people are easier to get along with than on Christian forums. And i am still trying to find a reason. I see at times the world getting along together better than the church.

 

[Waggles]

I see at times the world getting along together better than the church.

Maybe it is you !!

 

[lentz]

Maybe it is you !!

I have thought that

 

[lentz]

This is what i find in religious atmospheres. This is why i am hesitant of churches and other media:

PloughBoy said:
..Give it A break and stop acting like "Bozo the Clown" nobody wanted to hear that "lame duck" animosity, and stop trying to be somebody you ain't!.

Now give it a break and go do something useful, clothe in "edification" and "theological sound".


Proverbs 28:23
He who rebukes a man will later find more favor than one who flatters with his tongue.

Since you have a problem with addressing the "Title Thread and comprehending what it is directing to" about The "TEXT" at hand. here is the reminder, "kemosabe"

"And The LION shall Lay Down With The LAMB! Do you remember where the Quote Came from, Or did not they tell you The Story! About The Lion and The Lamb"

But you want to jump in the drivers seat! And take the wheel, and refused to even look at the map and The destination of where The Author is going. but you want to rewrite The BOOK ,and have not even read the pages!
and think we are a bunch of unlearn dumb goats and be led so easy by a "Goat Herder". from "Tennessee" Please, the LORD is More Intelligent
than that.

PS. for your information, the term [from Tennessee ] is "Anthropomorphic

I rest my case

 

[Twistie]

This is what i find in religious atmospheres. This is why i am hesitant of churches and other media:

PloughBoy said:
..Give it A break and stop acting like "Bozo the Clown" nobody wanted to hear that "lame duck" animosity, and stop trying to be somebody you ain't!.

Now give it a break and go do something useful, clothe in "edification" and "theological sound".


Proverbs 28:23
He who rebukes a man will later find more favor than one who flatters with his tongue.

Since you have a problem with addressing the "Title Thread and comprehending what it is directing to" about The "TEXT" at hand. here is the reminder, "kemosabe"

"And The LION shall Lay Down With The LAMB! Do you remember where the Quote Came from, Or did not they tell you The Story! About The Lion and The Lamb"

But you want to jump in the drivers seat! And take the wheel, and refused to even look at the map and The destination of where The Author is going. but you want to rewrite The BOOK ,and have not even read the pages!
and think we are a bunch of unlearn dumb goats and be led so easy by a "Goat Herder". from "Tennessee" Please, the LORD is More Intelligent
than that.

PS. for your information, the term [from Tennessee ] is "Anthropomorphic

I rest my case

I kinda get what ya mean
Ya know n I'm not just talking to you I'm talking to me n to all who is reading this I guess... I'm not a teacher nothing near by far I'm not very book smart n I'm fine with that what I am is I'm very observant n the problem with that is we can't see how one is truly living... This in itself causes chaos among His children... I believe this too..
I been a people watcher fro childhood my motto trust no one... They all go away eventually n they will all hurt you weather they mean to or not so like I said I watched...
N I see many forget about humility... See Yeshua He was very humble I mean come on let's think about this spat kicked hit punch screamed n yelled at n bruh not a flinch of violence man...
I was told ya know that either we r humble or we r not n if we can't b humble among men how can we claim we r humbling before our God n it is written

And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

Twistie

 

[Rhema]

up until Constantine converted to Christianity and severed the ties with Judaism.

I rather think the "ties" with Judaism were severed here -

But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.​

(Acts 13:45-47 KJV)​

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

"And The LION shall Lay Down With The LAMB! Do you remember where the Quote Came from, Or did not they tell you The Story! About The Lion and The Lamb"

Ahemm (cough).... it says Wolf.

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.​

(Isaiah 11:6 KJV)​

Rhema

(What? It's too much to ask for accuracy?)

 

[lentz]

Ahemm (cough).... it says Wolf.

The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.​

(Isaiah 11:6 KJV)​

Rhema

(What? It's too much to ask for accuracy?)

I was quoting him. I personally dont care what animal it was.
God bless

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

I rather think the "ties" with Judaism were severed here -

But when the Jews saw the multitudes, they were filled with envy, and spake against those things which were spoken by Paul, contradicting and blaspheming. Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.​

(Acts 13:45-47 KJV)​

Rhema

Oh really? Then why did Paul visit the local synagogue first and foremost wherever he stopped in his missionary journey?

 

[Waggles]

Oh really? Then why did Paul visit the local synagogue first and foremost wherever he stopped in his missionary journey?

Yes really
Acts 13:46 And Paul and Barnabas spake out boldly, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first be spoken to you.
But since ye thrust it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, lo, we turn to the nations.
47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, I have set thee for a light of nations, That thou be for salvation unto the uttermost of the earth.
48 And as the nations heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Matthew 21:38 But the husbandmen, seeing the son, said among themselves, This is the heir; come on, let us kill him, and have his inheritance.
39 And they took and cast him forth out of the vineyard, and killed him.
40 When therefore the lord of the vineyard shall come, what will he do to those husbandmen?
41 They say to him, He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will let out the vineyard to other husbandmen, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith to them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made head of the corner; This was from the Lord, And it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore I say unto you [that], The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth its fruits.
44 And who falleth on this stone shall be broken to pieces: but on whomever it shall fall, it will scatter him as dust.
45 And when the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Yes really
Acts 13:46 And Paul and Barnabas spake out boldly, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first be spoken to you.
But since ye thrust it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of eternal life, lo, we turn to the nations.
47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, I have set thee for a light of nations, That thou be for salvation unto the uttermost of the earth.
48 And as the nations heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of God: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.

Matthew 21:38 But the husbandmen, seeing the son, said among themselves, This is the heir; come on, let us kill him, and have his inheritance.
39 And they took and cast him forth out of the vineyard, and killed him.
40 When therefore the lord of the vineyard shall come, what will he do to those husbandmen?
41 They say to him, He will miserably destroy those miserable men, and will let out the vineyard to other husbandmen, who shall render him the fruits in their seasons.
42 Jesus saith to them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, The same was made head of the corner; This was from the Lord, And it is marvellous in our eyes?
43 Therefore I say unto you [that], The kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth its fruits.
44 And who falleth on this stone shall be broken to pieces: but on whomever it shall fall, it will scatter him as dust.
45 And when the chief priests and the Pharisees heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

Ok if you wanna go down that route, the.n the tie was severed even earlier than that. When St. Stephen was stoned, the vision was sealed for the Jews, they became spiritually blind, some believe that’s the end of the 70 weeks, which means 3 and a half years since the crucifixion. Paul just found out about that in Acts 13.

 

[Waggles]

Ok if you wanna go down that route, the.n the tie was severed even earlier than that. When St. Stephen was stoned, the vision was sealed for the Jews, they became spiritually blind, some believe that’s the end of the 70 weeks, which means 3 and a half years since the crucifixion. Paul just found out about that in Acts 13.

Where do you get all this gobbledegook from?

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Where do you get all this gobbledegook from?

Matthew 23:37-39

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! See! Your house is left to you desolate; for I say to you, you shall see Me no more till you say, ‘Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord!’ ”

 

[Garee]

Ok if you wanna go down that route, the.n the tie was severed even earlier than that. When St. Stephen was stoned, the vision was sealed for the Jews, they became spiritually blind, some believe that’s the end of the 70 weeks, which means 3 and a half years since the crucifixion. Paul just found out about that in Acts 13.

The gospel never had to do with outward flesh of mankind form any nation . God who is not a man is not served by human hands as a will.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

 

[complete]

I too am a member of the worldwide body of Christ, and my participation in it is firmly local.

I appreciate the sentiment, but cannot fathom how any follower of Jesus would decline to congregate and worship with others as a matter of conscience. That would seem to me to be the antithesis of what the New Testament writers exhorted the saints to do. In Corinth, where there were some pretty disturbing practices in the congregation, Paul never suggested anyone leave the congregation, he urged them to repent and to come into line with Jesus' teachings.

'For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him,
being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church,
to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas;
namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:'
(Act 15:21-22)

Hello @Hekuran,

I understand why you should feel this way in response to my entry, but I believe that worship takes place within the heart, in spirit and in truth, and the making of melody in the heart to God. It does not require a building or the presence of others. In fact I find that the presence of others can be a hindrance to worship.

The congregations of the early church met within the local synagogue, where the word of God was read openly, for that was their only means of hearing it. As for Paul, by the time he wrote his last epistle, to Timothy, his instruction was very much to the individual believer and not believers en mass.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Chris

 

[Garee]

'For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him,
being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church,
to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas;
namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren:'
(Act 15:21-22)

Hello @Hekuran,

I understand why you should feel this way in response to my entry, but I believe that worship takes place within the heart, in spirit and in truth, and the making of melody in the heart to God. It does not require a building or the presence of others. In fact I find that the presence of others can be a hindrance to worship.

The congregations of the early church met within the local synagogue, where the word of God was read openly, for that was their only means of hearing it. As for Paul, by the time he wrote his last epistle, to Timothy, his instruction was very much to the individual believer and not believers en mass.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Chris

No confederacy (hierarchy) of venerable men reigning over non venerable pew warmers or show time watchers .

The first century reformation spoken of in Hebrew 9 promised in Joel restored the order of those who think it does require a building made with human hands rather than the worship of God with a new heart and mind .

Again restored the period of time all the nations of the world men and woman apostles as Judges Given a new name by the father Christians.


Apostles sent out with prophecy . Call no man on earthy King as Father in the place of our unseen Holy Father reigning from above.

Isaiah 8:11-13King James Version For the Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying,Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread

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[lentz]

I think what we have here,is a failure,to communicate.

It is not a law that we have to be inside the church house everytime the doors are open,but that we worship 24/7 in Spirit and in Truth,and on occasion,go to the building and fellowship with one another.

 

[Twistie]

No confederacy (hierarchy) of venerable men reigning over non venerable pew warmers or show time watchers .

The first century reformation spoken of in Hebrew 9 promised in Joel restored the order of those who think it does require a building made with human hands rather than the worship of God with a new heart and mind .

Again restored the period of time all the nations of the world men and woman apostles as Judges Given a new name by the father Christians.


Apostles sent out with prophecy . Call no man on earthy King as Father in the place of our unseen Holy Father reigning from above.

Isaiah 8:11-13King James Version For the Lord spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying,Say ye not, A confederacy, to all them to whom this people shall say, A confederacy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid.Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread

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So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord...

I find it funny how so many wanna claim the titles that were given to the men of ole to elevate themselves...

Many don't realize we r all brothers n sisters we r to be edifying one another helping one another where n when we can... But they rather find a teachers that will satisfy their itching ears...

For Even the Messiah Called Himself Our Brother.. n yet so many need the title of preacher teacher prophet apostle n what Eva else they can think of

N this comes to me...

He answered and said to them, “When it is evening you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red’; and in the morning, ‘It will be foul weather today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times. A wicked and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign shall be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah.” And He left them and departed.


Twistie

 

[Twistie]

I think what we have here,is a failure,to communicate.

It is not a law that we have to be inside the church house everytime the doors are open,but that we worship 24/7 in Spirit and in Truth,and on occasion,go to the building and fellowship with one another.

We r the church we should gather among ourselves when Eva we can frfr...

Funny how they wanna claim they brothers n sisters in them temples but yet ain't Neva been to one another's home or out to lunch or a celebration of any kind ...

Dont sound like much of a family if ya ask me...


Twistie

 

[Twistie]

Maybe it is you !!

Naw I haven't been welcomed in one in a long time...

I don't want to go to a concert n that's what most of these temples are like

Light stages movie screens no alter for the Lord cause the Table of the Lord takes up to much room.. no breaking bread no more cause it takes to long..


I'm not setting for popcorn n candy that's spoken in them temples I have visited.. if I want half truths n popcorn n candy I'll go to a fair n talk to a gypsy or something.. n I have no desire to do either

How I see it...

Twistie