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Why do i not attend church?

So being in one place week in n week out is planting?

Naw we plant from the time our feet hit the floor in the am

We got temples all ova here feed peep cloth peep n sum may help u get in a place

That's doesn't mean the temple is of YH frfr

Demons are very polite


Twistie :broken_heart:
Friend, not that I owe you any explanation.....but the church I attend has ministries going on almost every day of the week, lol. Outreach, Women and Children's shelter, Faith-based counseling, Food Pantry ministry, Homeless ministry, prison ministry, hospital/shut-in visitation ministry, rotating prayer in homes, weekly bible studies, weekly community outreach, etc. I know of MANY other churches in the are in which I live who do the same. Certainly not all......but many. Believe it or not, there ARE still groups of believers, attending church.....right here in America, who see church as more than just a 2-day -a-week, or 2 set 1-hour services- per week commitment. There are those who still do actually try to build their lives around following Jesus and His church ......and not the other way around - molding "church" and Jesus around their daily lives.
 
Of course its about individualism. Its about our obedience to God...to His Word....Not about our obedience to other people
I did not say that the early church was not organized....I said it was loosely organized. That's a very different thing. Organized so people knew where to find what...Organized so people knew where to give....Organized so people knew what was going on in the Christian community, but nobody controlled anybody. So.....I am not talking about people being controlled by God....or about people obeying God. I am talking about the pastor and his demon board controlling people. For example....I took my family camping years ago, in Washington State...When we returned the pastor stopped over to my house...He berated me for not being in church the last Sunday. I told him we had gone camping and had even had a 'service' together. He replied that "Ok...Well it's not me going to hell" What?! What does hell have to do with a born again Christian family....or is he just trying to scare me and force me to attend church at his command? He was trying to control me...nothing more. Show me one verse that shows God wants His people to be controlled...to be a subservient part of the herd
As another member responded above, it's pretty clear you don't like rules. Many don't. That's understandable. whether you like it or not, God has always had expectations and guidelines for His people to live by. Choosing not to be obedient to these "rules" is simply sin. It is no surprise then that God's church also has expectations for believers and guidelines by which we are expected to live our lives. Many people don't like having their flaws and failures AND SINFUL WAYS pointed out by others......especially church leaders/ministers......that's just pride and the flesh resisting. The fact is, God's Word tells us that we need other believers to sharpen us, to rebuke us when we are wrong, to correct us, to encourage us, to pray with us, to be used in the Spiritual Gifts for our benefit. We need teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, and YES even pastors (shepherds) to be a part of our walk with God. These are the fivefold ministry God gave for the building up of the body.........the church.

I am sorry this happened to you in church. This is not God's way. Unfortunately there are many who abuse the authority God gives those called to ministry. Also, we must remember that there are a large number of false teachers out there who claim to be called by God who are leading men astray. We must pray for discernment......but not allow the enemy to cloud our vision. The enemy knows God's plan for His church.....THE church.....and he will do anything to weaken and disrupt it. The enemy also knows the power behind a body of believers who are unified in Spirit and in Truth. He wants you believing that the (organized and established) Church of Jesus Christ is weak, false, or has completely been corrupted and replaced with "man-made religion".
If the enemy can get you to believe that, you will never join a church. You will never sit under the anointing, blessing, protection, and guidance of a true and called man of God. You will miss out on the consistent power of a solid group of unified believers praying or being used in the Spiritual Gifts. And WHY? All because you've allowed either your feelings, your flesh, or the enemy to convince you that "church rules are bad" and "organized churches are bad,,' and "church leadership is all bad." Basically you've allowed church hurt to darken your spirit.
 
As another member responded above, it's pretty clear you don't like rules. Many don't. That's understandable. whether you like it or not, God has always had expectations and guidelines for His people to live by. Choosing not to be obedient to these "rules" is simply sin. It is no surprise then that God's church also has expectations for believers and guidelines by which we are expected to live our lives. Many people don't like having their flaws and failures AND SINFUL WAYS pointed out by others......especially church leaders/ministers......that's just pride and the flesh resisting. The fact is, God's Word tells us that we need other believers to sharpen us, to rebuke us when we are wrong, to correct us, to encourage us, to pray with us, to be used in the Spiritual Gifts for our benefit. We need teachers, evangelists, prophets, apostles, and YES even pastors (shepherds) to be a part of our walk with God. These are the fivefold ministry God gave for the building up of the body.........the church.

I am sorry this happened to you in church. This is not God's way. Unfortunately there are many who abuse the authority God gives those called to ministry. Also, we must remember that there are a large number of false teachers out there who claim to be called by God who are leading men astray. We must pray for discernment......but not allow the enemy to cloud our vision. The enemy knows God's plan for His church.....THE church.....and he will do anything to weaken and disrupt it. The enemy also knows the power behind a body of believers who are unified in Spirit and in Truth. He wants you believing that the (organized and established) Church of Jesus Christ is weak, false, or has completely been corrupted and replaced with "man-made religion".
If the enemy can get you to believe that, you will never join a church. You will never sit under the anointing, blessing, protection, and guidance of a true and called man of God. You will miss out on the consistent power of a solid group of unified believers praying or being used in the Spiritual Gifts. And WHY? All because you've allowed either your feelings, your flesh, or the enemy to convince you that "church rules are bad" and "organized churches are bad,,' and "church leadership is all bad." Basically you've allowed church hurt to darken your spirit.
Since you choose to point fingers here....I'll say this What you are 'teaching' here is nothing more than doctrines of demons....doctrines taught by demons...It totally negates the God given free will of Christians....Totally demonic. You may want to see what the WORD says instead of what your pastor says Again....Show me one verse that shows God wants His people to be controlled...to be a subservient part of the herd
 
Since you choose to point fingers here....I'll say this What you are 'teaching' here is nothing more than doctrines of demons....doctrines taught by demons...It totally negates the God given free will of Christians....Totally demonic. You may want to see what the WORD says instead of what your pastor says Again....Show me one verse that shows God wants His people to be controlled...to be a subservient part of the herd
Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you. Hebrews 13:17
 
Titus 1:4 To Titus, my true child in a common faith: Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Saviour.
Qualifications for Elders
Tit 1:5 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you -
Tit 1:6 if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination.
Tit 1:7 For an overseer, as God's steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain,
Tit 1:8 but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined.
Tit 1:9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
 
Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timothy, servants of Christ Jesus, To all the saints in Christ Jesus who are at Philippi, with the overseers and deacons:

1Timothy 3:1 The saying is trustworthy: If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task.
2 Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
3 not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.
4 He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive,
5 for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's elect?
6 He must not be a recent convert, or he may become puffed up with conceit and fall into the condemnation of the devil.
7 Moreover, he must be well thought of by outsiders, so that he may not fall into disgrace, into a snare of the devil.
Qualifications for Deacons
8 Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued, not addicted to much wine, not greedy for dishonest gain.
9 They must hold the mystery of the faith with a clear conscience.
10 And let them also be tested first; then let them serve as deacons if they prove themselves blameless.
11 Their wives likewise must be dignified, not slanderers, but sober-minded, faithful in all things.
12 Let deacons each be the husband of one wife, managing their children and their own households well.
13 For those who serve well as deacons gain a good standing for themselves and also great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.
 
Friend, not that I owe you any explanation.....but the church I attend has ministries going on almost every day of the week, lol. Outreach, Women and Children's shelter, Faith-based counseling, Food Pantry ministry, Homeless ministry, prison ministry, hospital/shut-in visitation ministry, rotating prayer in homes, weekly bible studies, weekly community outreach, etc. I know of MANY other churches in the are in which I live who do the same. Certainly not all......but many. Believe it or not, there ARE still groups of believers, attending church.....right here in America, who see church as more than just a 2-day -a-week, or 2 set 1-hour services- per week commitment. There are those who still do actually try to build their lives around following Jesus and His church ......and not the other way around - molding "church" and Jesus around their daily lives.

Friend, not that I owe you any explanation.....but the church I attend has ministries going on almost every day of the week, lol. Outreach, Women and Children's shelter, Faith-based counseling, Food Pantry ministry, Homeless ministry, prison ministry, hospital/shut-in visitation ministry, rotating prayer in homes, weekly bible studies, weekly community outreach, etc. I know of MANY other churches in the are in which I live who do the same. Certainly not all......but many. Believe it or not, there ARE still groups of believers, attending church.....right here in America, who see church as more than just a 2-day -a-week, or 2 set 1-hour services- per week commitment. There are those who still do actually try to build their lives around following Jesus and His church ......and not the other way around - molding "church" and Jesus around their daily lives.
Do u sup with the homeless by chance? Do u help any of these fatherless children running around?

Funny u couldn't answer one question about the man u follow n give so much glory too


N not being smart but where does Yeshua say He coming for a Christian church

I hope u spend more time with YH n less following n glorifying man


This whole thing is sad just sad



Twistie :broken_heart:
 
Have confidence in your leaders and submit to their authority, because they keep watch over you as those who must give an account. Do this so that their work will be a joy, not a burden, for that would be of no benefit to you. Hebrews 13:17
Good verse! That is assuming, of course, that the leaders are imitating Jesus 1 Corinthians 11:1 11 try to imitate me, even as I myself try to imitate the Messiah.
Of course most preachers do not try to imitate Jesus
 
Since you choose to point fingers here....I'll say this What you are 'teaching' here is nothing more than doctrines of demons....doctrines taught by demons...It totally negates the God given free will of Christians....Totally demonic. You may want to see what the WORD says instead of what your pastor says Again....Show me one verse that shows God wants His people to be controlled...to be a subservient part of the herd
This will be my last response on the matter. Where did I once say that we did not have free will? Where did I say that God wants us to "be controlled"? What I AM saying is that God demands obedience from those who are truly His. And we are told explicitly to "not forsake the assembling together of ourselves..." (Hebrews 10:25) To do so, is disobedience to the Word of God. Christ established HIS church on Earth to help carry out His plan of salvation for those who would come to Him in repentance and who would choose to remain obedient. God has given and still calls Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists, Apostles, and Prophets to help carry out that plan, to build up the Body (church) and to keep it in order. God is a God of order. There is an order to everything He does. It was never His plan for mankind to discover Him or His truths alone....without teachers: "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? and how shall they preach, except they be sent? (Romans 10:14-15)

One of the last things Christ did before ascending was to give orders to the disciples to go out and teach the world about Him. And yes, they established churches to help accomplish this great commission. Jesus even named Peter "The Rock upon which He would build His church." James the brother of Jesus would himself go on to become a leader of the established church of Jerusalem. To totally disregard His church and church authority is to disregard God's Word. That's Biblical and there's tons of scripture to support it:

Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you.” (Hebrews 13:17)

“through whom we have received grace and apostleship to bring about the OBEDIENCE OF FAITH among all the Gentiles for His name’s sake, (Romans 1:5)


“Let every soul BE SUBJECT UNTO HIGHER POWERS. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.” (Romans 13:1) – Oh, did you think this meant only higher powers and governing authorities OUTSIDE the church? Think again.


“For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.” (James 2:10)


“Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.” (Romans 13:2)


Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God. Consider the outcome of their way of life, and imitate their faith.” (Hebrews 13:7)


“And when they had appointed elders for them in every church, with prayer and fasting they committed them to the Lord in whom they had believed.” (Acts 14:23)


“This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you—" (Titus 1:5)


“Likewise, you who are younger, BE SUBJECT TO ELDERS. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” (1 Peter 5:5)



Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.” (1 Timothy 5:17)


If I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth. (1 Timothy 3:15)


For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions”, (2 Timothy 4:3)


As OBEDIENT children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as He which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in ALL manner of conversation; because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. (1 Peter 1:14-16)


So then, my beloved, just as you have always OBEYED, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; (Philippians 2:12)


But thanks be to God that though you were slaves of sin, you BECAME OBEDIENT from the heart to that FORM OF TEACHING TO WHICH YOU WERE COMMITTED,” (Romans 6:17)


Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.” (John 14:23)


But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.” (James 1:22)


For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.” (Romans 5:19)


And he (Jesus) answered, “You shall love the Lord your God with ALL your heart and with ALL your soul and with ALL your strength and with ALL your mind, and your neighbor as yourself. – (Luke 10:27) – The 2 Greatest Commandments. Notice the word “ALL.” ALL means in totality!


If you love me, you will keep my commandments.” (John 14:15)

For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome.” (1 John 5:3)


What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.” (2 Corinthians 6:16-18)


Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.” (Matthew 7:13-14) The way to the "Narrow Gate" requires obedience and submission.
 
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Do u sup with the homeless by chance? Do u help any of these fatherless children running around?

Funny u couldn't answer one question about the man u follow n give so much glory too


N not being smart but where does Yeshua say He coming for a Christian church

I hope u spend more time with YH n less following n glorifying man


This whole thing is sad just sad



Twistie :broken_heart:
Yes, my pastor "sups" with the homeless. In fact we have a bus ministry that picks them up and brings them to church where they sit freely among the congregation and eat and fellowship with us. Yes, my pastor routinely visits the sick and elderly and he lays hands on them and prays for them. Yes, my pastor makes it a point to know everyone who attends church.....even guests and he routinely stays after services for hours on end talking to anyone who needs to speak to him. Yes, he is at the church at least 5-6 days per week, 8 hours a day and has an open-door policy for anyone who would come. Yes my pastor preaches and teaches from the word of God and stands on it's truth. Yes, my pastor gives his personal phone # out to anyone who asks him for it. Yes, he is transparent and open about all church business including his own finances. Yes, he gives money out of his own pocket to help people....too many to count. Yes, he gives of his own money to tithes and offerings. No he is not perfect by any means......but he IS genuine. He has a genuine calling on His life from God. He has a genuine love for the Lord and for ALL of God's people. He admits his shortcomings and he at least seeks God's will daily in his personal life as well as in his role as shepherd of the church. We have a church with around 700-800 regular attendees and we are very blessed to be a loving congregation that preaches truth, welcomes everyone, and has a pastor who does his very best to keep God at the forefront of everything we do. Does that answer your questions?

Not all modern day churches and pastors fit into your negative mold of carnality and corruption. Sorry. Perhaps instead of giving up on God's plan for HIS church, you should just keep seeking with less bitterness in your heart.
 
Good verse! That is assuming, of course, that the leaders are imitating Jesus 1 Corinthians 11:1 11 try to imitate me, even as I myself try to imitate the Messiah.
Of course most preachers do not try to imitate Jesus
You know personally what MOST pastors preach, teach, and how they live? How? You have evidence of this? Or are you just speaking in generalities, from your personal feelings?
 
First off, The parable of the wedding feast is in the Gospels and was taught many years before the Apostle Paul was even converted.
Secondly, there was a much deeper reason for Paul preaching in synagogues than what you've eluded to. It wasn't about preference of one group over another. It was a targeted evangelistic strategy. Paul and Silas knew that among the Gentiles, those who were most hungry for God would be those hanging around the temples where at least the Word of God (OT scrolls) would be read daily and openly and taught.. Read the accounts in Acts 13, 14, 16, 17 and 18. In almost every instance where Paul preached in a synagogue, there were Gentiles present. You fish where the fish are hungry and biting. Simple as that.

I kind of see what you are getting at.....and what you say about many modern churches is spot-on......but I think you may be unintentionally "misinterpreting" that parable and using it to mean something it doesn't. No offense....Just saying.
Hey, look, this is not preference or bias, but a simple historic fact, that Christianity started off as a sect of Judaism, the early church was mostly Jews, any Gentile believer was just added bonus, up until Constantine converted to Christianity and severed the ties with Judaism. There was a time when Judaism was acknowledged by the Roman Empire as a legit religion, while Christianity was denied as a cult, as a result many Jews were discouraged and considering to go back to the Levitical sacrificial system and old traditions, and that's the backdrop of the Book of Hebrew.

As for the parable of the King's banquet, there's no need for interpretation, the conclusion was already given - many are called, but few are chosen. God has no respect of any particular person. As a guest at the Lamb's wedding, you gotta have dressed in the right wedding garment, that is, a white robe washed in the blood of the Lamb, anything else is filthy rags, as Paul described. Apostle John saw it with his own eyes in his vision. That's why it's more of a prophecy than a tale or an analogy.
 
One Body with Many Members
1Cor 12:12 For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.
13 For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit.
14 For the body does not consist of one member but of many.
15 If the foot should say, “Because I am not a hand, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body.
16 And if the ear should say, “Because I am not an eye, I do not belong to the body,” that would not make it any less a part of the body.
17 If the whole body were an eye, where would be the sense of hearing? If the whole body were an ear, where would be the sense of smell?
18 But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose.
19 If all were a single member, where would the body be?
20 As it is, there are many parts, yet one body.
21 The eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you,” nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.”
22 On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable,
23 and on those parts of the body that we think less honourable we bestow the greater honour, and our unpresentable parts are treated with greater modesty,
24 which our more presentable parts do not require. But God has so composed the body, giving greater honour to the part that lacked it,
25 that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another.
26 If one member suffers, all suffer together; if one member is honoured, all rejoice together.
27 Now you are the body of Christ and individually members of it.
28 And God has appointed in the church[assembly] first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.
 
Was the parable of the King's banquet about attending church in a building? Or was it about about accepting Jesus' invitation to come to Him?
Again, church, ekklasia, or "commonwealth of Israel" as Paul put it, is never a building with a bell tower and a cross on top, but an assembly called out for a purpose. In this case, partaking of the Lamb's wedding feast at God's table.
 
In my many years I've known many 'pastors' I speak from personal experience.
Do you know MOST of the Christian pastors on Earth today?
If not, your statement is just hyperbole and means nothing.
You said “MOST pastors are not trying to imitate Christ”.
 
'I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord,
beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
With all lowliness and meekness,
with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.'
'There is -
.. one body, and
.... one Spirit, even as ye are called in
...... one hope of your calling;
........ One Lord,
.......... one faith,
............ one baptism,
.............. One God and Father of all,
................ Who is above all,
................. and through all,
.................. and in you all.
But unto every one of us is given grace
according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
(Eph 4:1-7)

'And He gave some, apostles; and some, prophets;
.. and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
.... For the perfecting of the saints,
...... for the work of the ministry,
........ for the edifying of the body of Christ:
.......... Till we all come in the unity of the faith,
............ and of the knowledge of the Son of God,
.............. unto a perfect man,
................ unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
That we henceforth be no more children,
.. tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
.... by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
...... But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into Him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
........ From Whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth,
.......... according to the effectual working in the measure of every part,
............ maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.'
(Eph 4:11-16)

Praise God!

:love:
 
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Hello there,

I am a member of the church which is the Body of Christ, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all (Eph.1:22-23) It has no building, and it's membership are spread out over the world. It has one Head, and that is Christ Himself, and it is He from which each member by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increases with the increase of God (Col 2:19).

So if we are able to congregate together in worship and praise, or are not able by circumstance, or conscience, then we commit ourselves to God, in Christ Jesus, and live in love towards our fellow members, and those who are, 'without', not criticising or judging, but loving and serving to the best of our ability as God enables.

May His Name be Praised!

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Our risen and glorified Lord and Head.
Chris
 
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Hello there,

I am a member of the church which is the Body of Christ, the fulness of Him that filleth all in all (Eph.1:22-23) It has no building, and it's membership are spread out over the world. It has one Head, and that is Christ Himself, and it is He from which each member by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increases with the increase of God (Col 2:19).

So if we are able to congregate together in worship and praise, or are not able by circumstance, or conscience, then we commit ourselves to God, in Christ Jesus, and live in love towards our fellow members, and those who are, 'without', not criticising or judging, but loving and serving to the best of our ability as God enables.

May His Name be Praised!

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
Our risen and glorified Lord and Head.
Chris
I too am a member of the worldwide body of Christ, and my participation in it is firmly local.

I appreciate the sentiment, but cannot fathom how any follower of Jesus would decline to congregate and worship with others as a matter of conscience. That would seem to me to be the antithesis of what the New Testament writers exhorted the saints to do. In Corinth, where there were some pretty disturbing practices in the congregation, Paul never suggested anyone leave the congregation, he urged them to repent and to come into line with Jesus' teachings.
 
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