Yet another false teacher

[God's Truth]

Ok and what about you, you say i follow the bible. But you will only follow it as far as your understanding goes.

Jesus gives understanding.

I have no ptoblem with that, except one thing. If your experience is so limited, how can you trust when others tell the truth.

We are to check everything out with the scriptures.

This is where Gifts of the Holy Spirit come in. Discernment. If you have the Gift of Discernment, use it, or at least try.

It doesn't mean you can say anything against the scriptures.
You spoke well of all denominations, as if they were okay and good as long as they thought they were pleasing to God. It is just not so. We can see from the scriptures that it is not so.

I could tell you about my work with Angels. Ordained by God the Father. And you will say, that isnt in the bible. But it is in the bible, except your understanding or your interpretation doesnt or wont see it that way. If you use Discernment, you will know the truth

The Bible tells us about angels and warns us about worshiping angels.
All things we believe and teach must be according to the preserved words of God, or we nullify God's word.

 

[God's Truth]

Gregoryp who named you a judge over who is a good preacher? Who named any of us? Nobody! If you make a judgment of this kind, you are in disobedience​

We have to make judgments.

We are to make righteous judgments that are not hypocritical, just as Jesus says.
John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise—with careful discernment (John 7:24). When Jesus told us not to judge (Matthew 7:1), He was telling us not to judge hypocritically. Matthew 7:2-5.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Everyone makes those judgements. It happens for a veriety of reasons. What is important isnt just reading scripture, but hearing what is said.

Jesus teaches , if they are not against us, then they are for us.

Maybe the Protestants need to look a little closer at that phrase, because lately they seem to be against everyone at least here in Talk Jesus.

Justify it as you will but we still are not to judge.

 

[God's Truth]

Justify it as you will but we still are not to judge.

Not true.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

We have to make judgments.

We are to make righteous judgments that are not hypocritical, just as Jesus says.
John 7:24
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
There is a righteous kind of judgment we are supposed to exercise—with careful discernment (John 7:24). When Jesus told us not to judge (Matthew 7:1), He was telling us not to judge hypocritically. Matthew 7:2-5.

We judge ourselves

1 Corinthians 11:27-31
Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly

2 Corinthians 13:5
Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?

Galatians 6:4
But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another.
1 John 3:19-21

We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things. Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God;

We judge among ourselves for the settling of disputes.

1 Corinthians 6:1-6​

6 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?​

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That is the only kind of judging we are to do....We do NOT judge for anything else.​

 

[God's Truth]

We judge ourselves

1 Corinthians 11:27-31
Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, shall be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. But a man must examine himself, and in so doing he is to eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks, eats and drinks judgment to himself if he does not judge the body rightly

2 Corinthians 13:5
Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?

Galatians 6:4
But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another.
1 John 3:19-21

We will know by this that we are of the truth, and will assure our heart before Him in whatever our heart condemns us; for God is greater than our heart and knows all things. Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God;

We judge among ourselves for the settling of disputes.

1 Corinthians 6:1-6​

6 When one of you has a grievance against another, does he dare go to law before the unrighteous instead of the saints? 2 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life! 4 So if you have such cases, why do you lay them before those who have no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Can it be that there is no one among you wise enough to settle a dispute between the brothers, 6 but brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers?​

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That is the only kind of judging we are to do....We do NOT judge for anything else.​

If you have to examine yourself, then YOU ARE NOT in the Lord.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Not true.

1 Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1 Corinthians 2:14-15
14 Now the natural man does not receive the things from the Spirit of God — to him they are nonsense! Moreover, he is unable to grasp them, because they are evaluated through the Spirit. 15 But the person who has the Spirit can evaluate everything, while no one is in a position to evaluate him.
There is the whole thought, not a partial thought, which makes it out of context.....Our judgment is not to judge others but to judge what is right or wrong... and if you judge others, what is to stop others from judging you?

A thought without context is a pretext...a lie.


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[Admon Mikha'el]

If you have to examine yourself, then YOU ARE NOT in the Lord.

What did the scriptures I gave you say? Is the Word wrong?

 

[God's Truth]

1 Corinthians 2:14-15​

14 Now the natural man does not receive the things from the Spirit of God — to him they are nonsense! Moreover, he is unable to grasp them, because they are evaluated through the Spirit. 15 But the person who has the Spirit can evaluate everything, while no one is in a position to evaluate him.​

There is the whole thought, not a partial thought, which makes it out of context.....Our judgment is not to judge others but to judge what is right or wrong... and if you judge others, what is to stop others from judging you?​

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A thought without context is a pretext...a lie.​

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The scripture plainly says the person who has the Spirit judgeth all things.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

The scripture plainly says the person who has the Spirit judgeth all things.

all things.

 

[God's Truth]

all things.

But if you have to examine yourself to see if you have the Spirit of God---then how have you been living, if not through the Spirit of God? I know that everything I do and say all day, I do it with the love of God. If I have to examine myself, then it means I haven't been consciously living through the Spirit.

Consider more carefully what Paul says after he says to examine yourself.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?

Are you insulted by Paul thinking they have failed the test?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

But if you have to examine yourself to see if you have the Spirit of God---then how have you been living, if not through the Spirit of God? I know that everything I do and say all day, I do it with the love of God. If I have to examine myself, then it means I haven't been consciously living through the Spirit.

Consider more carefully what Paul says after he says to examine yourself.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test?

Are you insulted by Paul thinking they have failed the test?

2 Corinthians 13:5
5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are living the life of trust. Test yourselves. Don’t you realize that Yeshua the Messiah is in you? — unless you fail to pass the test.

It says to judge yourself, test yourself to see if you're living in faith....If you are the Spirit is in you. If you are not then you fail the test. Paul did not say anybody failed. He said to check yourself.
My friend....Believe what you read, and do not read what you believe.​

 

[God's Truth]

2 Corinthians 13:5​

5 Examine yourselves to see whether you are living the life of trust. Test yourselves. Don’t you realize that Yeshua the Messiah is in you? — unless you fail to pass the test. ​

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It says to judge yourself, test yourself to see if you're living in faith....If you are the Spirit is in you. If you are not then you fail the test. Paul did not say anybody failed. He said to check yourself.​

My friend....Believe what you read, and do not read what you believe.​

Did you read all that I said, or just part?
If you are living through the Spirit all day every day---then answer me this, why do you have to examine yourself?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Did you read all that I said, or just part?
If you are living through the Spirit all day every day---then answer me this, why do you have to examine yourself?

Examine yourself to see where you go wrong so you can confess it...That way you don't have to explain it later. As an example...Jesus said we would answer for every idle/ careless. empty word. So you examine your words. You be very careful of the words you speak....Again why? Your words have the very same creative power that Gods Words had/have when He created the universe (part of being created in His image) Your words will create and they also can destroy. So....you examine yourself

 

[God's Truth]

Examine yourself to see where you go wrong so you can confess it...That way you don't have to explain it later

Again, if you have to examine yourself, then you were not walking through the Spirit as you lived your day to day life.
We know if we are walking in the Spirit.

 

[God's Truth]

@Admon Mikha'el

Look, Paul had a problem with some of the Corinthians, he was worried that some were not saved. Do you know that? Do you know what I am talking about?

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

@Admon Mikha'el

Look, Paul had a problem with some of the Corinthians, he was worried that some were not saved. Do you know that? Do you know what I am talking about?

Paul was concerned about the Corinthians....He was....But notice....He was concerned about everybody he spoke to

 

[God's Truth]

Paul was concerned about the Corinthians....He was....But notice....He was concerned about everybody he spoke to

Right. He had to form Christ in the Galatians all over again, because they fell from grace, when they were talked into observing special days and getting circumcised.

Galatians 4:19 My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you,

Now back to the Corinthians, here is the scripture where Paul is worried they are not really saved because they did not repent of their sins, as was evident by their behavior.
We have to repent of our sins to get saved.

2 Corinthians 12:21 I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Right. He had to form Christ in the Galatians all over again, because they fell from grace, when they were talked into observing special days and getting circumcised.

Galatians 4:19 My dear children, for whom I am again in the pains of childbirth until Christ is formed in you,

Now back to the Corinthians, here is the scripture where Paul is worried they are not really saved because they did not repent of their sins, as was evident by their behavior.
We have to repent of our sins to get saved.

2 Corinthians 12:21 I am afraid that when I come again my God will humble me before you, and I will be grieved over many who have sinned earlier and have not repented of the impurity, sexual sin and debauchery in which they have indulged.

Ok my friend....what is it about Pauls concern for the Corinthians that bothers you...I think I'm missing something

 

[Bill]

In all things, always keep your eyes on Jesus Christ because the Bridegroom will be coming soon. That is what the real indwelling Holy Spirit is doing in keeping your focus on the Son whereas the spirits of the antichrist; antichrist meaning as used in scripture; "instead of Christ", would take your focus off of the Son to themselves to chase after them for their visitations with signs & lying wonders, thus seducing believers in seeking to receive what has been assumed to be the Holy Ghost again after a sign when it is not.

Believers need to shun tongues for private use by praying normally and chase no more after seducing spirits when the real Holy Spirit has been in them since salvation at the calling of the gospel when they had first believed in Jesus Christ. It is the only way to repent by being out of the market, from seeking to be filled with oil, when they had been always Spirit-filled from the beginning since the calling of the gospel, so as to be ready for the Bridegroom when He comes.

So you are a Rapture believer. The question I have for you to whom does the Rapture serve. Will you be like Abraham and challenge the Lord politely by saying if there are 50 Believers will you kill them too and what if there's five less than those 50 will you kill 45 and if there are five less than that will you kill the 40

What happens to all the children that are innocent when the Rapture takes place because they haven't accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior

What about the infirmed that cannot speak are they going to hell because they have not acknowledge Jesus as Lord and savior

What about all those people they have mental ailments that cannot reason are they doomed to experience the judgment because they cannot understand accepting Jesus as Lord.

Doesn't Jesus say to pick up your cross, doesn't he tell us to walk in his footsteps?

Never once have I known Jesus to run away when there was danger coming why do you think that you have that privilege to run away right before the storm comes.

No not one of you we'll leave. This is what you're called to do to Bear witness to the truth so quit hiding quit playing this game quit listening to the garbage that's being taught on The Great Escape. Because it's not happening.

Only at Jesus return will you experience being raptured.

Why do you think it is written in the scripture that people will not know where they are at in Revelations until the breaking of The Sixth Seal " run and hide for the great day of the Lord Has Come and who will stand against it"