Ask Jesus if that is not the turbulent waters you are wading in from that dream of yours.
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Under the New Covenant now, I believe the Lord loves a cheerful giver which is why it is nobody else's business to know if a believer is giving or not. The church & the pastors are to look to the Lord to raise up cheerful givers for the ministry otherwise their faith in God providing is dead.
An example of signs following believers is what had happened to Paul here below;
Acts 28:1And when they were escaped, then they knew that the island was called Melita. 2 And the barbarous people shewed us no little kindness: for they kindled a fire, and received us every one, because of the present rain, and because of the cold. 3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand. 4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm. 6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.
One can hope but even those who serve Him can be close to death.
Philippians 2:26 For he longed after you all, and was full of heaviness, because that ye had heard that he had been sick. 27 For indeed he was sick nigh unto death: but God had mercy on him; and not on him only, but on me also, lest I should have sorrow upon sorrow. 28 I sent him therefore the more carefully, that, when ye see him again, ye may rejoice, and that I may be the less sorrowful.
Why wouldn't God heal all the time?
#1 For the gospel sake. Easy to preach to the sick & dying when one is well, but sharing that faith while sick & dying, the sick & dying may listen more.
1 Corinthians 9:22 To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some. 23 And this I do for the gospel's sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
#2 For keeping us humble as Paul testified to a thorn in the flesh which I believe as described as the messenger of Satan to buffet him in the flesh is what we would all label as mental illness because he was "hearing voices."
2 Corinthians 12:6 For though I would desire to glory, I shall not be a fool; for I will say the truth: but now I forbear, lest any man should think of me above that which he seeth me to be, or that he heareth of me. 7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong.
#3 God may be calling us Home
Philippians 1:20 According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death. 21 For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
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Yeh, I didn't believe in any of this when I had that dream. I already know what that is talking about.
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Although you're taking a scripture a little bit out of contents, because some of what you have quoted has a different meaning to it. The point is still correct and that is that the Miracles themselves are not the proof of the pudding as far as Faith goes.
I mean we can look at the scripture where Jesus healed people and the Miracles that took place were because of their faith, but the Miracles didn't cause them to have faith. The Miracles were only the byproduct of them having faith in the first place.
The greatest faith is a person who believes that Jesus is Lord and Savior. The person who has never experienced any kind of miracle, and believes in their heart. This is the purest type of Faith there is, the faith like a child
Khundalini, an eastern mysticism, can boast of bringing about "healings and miracles". This existed before Pentecost had come with the birth of the church of Christ.
Certain rudiments had come in that mislead believers into thinking they can receive the Holy Ghost again apart from salvation for a sign or even a miracle. Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade boasted of announcing when the Holy Spirit will fall on a saved believer to get a healing which would case them to fall backwards in a loss of self control; hence what Jesus warned about regarding houses falling in Matthew 7:24-27 in relations to this iniquity in Matthew 7:21-23
The problem here is believers fail to realize that the real indwelling Holy Ghost cannot be received again after salvation for why the indwelling Holy Ghost will always keep the spotlight on the Lord Jesus Christ in worship as Jesus said, that He is the only way to come to God the Father by and He meant it in John 14:6 Climbing up any other way is a work of iniquity per John 10:1 That is why all focus on the Holy Spirit in worship for "His visitations" to bring about these miracles is why Jesus addressed them as workers of iniquity for they sought the miracles not by way of Jesus Christ, but by a supernatural phenomenon for why many believers lose self control & fall for not heeding His words here
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him
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Dont you think it funny that on one hand, Pastors will say , we do not live in the old Testiment. But learn from it. And then on the other hand , continue with tithing. And making anyone who does not tithe out to be a sinner.
So the Pastors push tithing your money, even after Jesus says, God wants our hearts.
If they only understood faith
If Pastors lived soley on faith the wealth of thier parish would be outstanding.
Store up your riches in heaven.
Indeed. If the pastor & churches relied on God to provide by raising up cheerful givers for the church to run on, they would see God's indescribable gift.
2 Corinthians 9:5 Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness. 6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:.....
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. 10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
11 Being enriched in every thing to all bountifulness, which causeth through us thanksgiving to God. 12 For the administration of this service not only supplieth the want of the saints, but is abundant also by many thanksgivings unto God; 13 Whiles by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection unto the gospel of Christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto all men; 14 And by their prayer for you, which long after you for the exceeding grace of God in you. 15 Thanks be unto God for his unspeakable gift.But as it is, in these days, the churches are liken unto Laodiceans; where they rely on pledged money & expected tithings that they have rather than on God to provide.
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Kind of hard for a church or the pastor of that church to preach to the poor members about having faith in God to provide when the church relies on pledged of giving and tithings, thus the church's faith in God to provide is dead in the eyes of the poor members of the church.
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Ya it is kind of hard for a church / pastor to live on faith. Lol well you will have your chance very soon now.Indeed. If the pastor & churches relied on God to provide by raising up cheerful givers for the church to run on, they would see God's indescribable gift.
2 Corinthians 9:5 Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness. 6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully. 7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:.....
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth for ever. 10 Now he that ministereth seed to the sower both minister bread for your food, and multiply your seed sown, and increase the fruits of your righteousness
But as it is, in these days, the churches are liken unto Laodiceans; where they rely on pledged money & expected tithings that they have rather than on God to provide.
Revelation 3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; 15 I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. 16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Kind of hard for a church or the pastor of that church to preach to the poor members about having faith in God to provide when the church relies on pledged of giving and tithings, thus the church's faith in God to provide is dead in the eyes of the poor members of the church.
Let us see who the real God is when you have 0 money.
One can hope & pray for their pastors & their church that God will wake them up before then.
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During the laying of the foundation, the apostles were given the ability to do signs and other miraculous things, as a testimony from God that what they taught were from Him. However, the testimony and sign have been given since then. The foundation has been laid. There are no more churches as there were in the New Testament times. We have the scriptures now and Jesus himself becomes are Teacher when we get Jesus' teachings from the Bible and do what he says to do.
God still does miracles and heals people, but He isn't testifying to the greatest time on earth, as was done during the New Testament times. God testified to the gospel by allowing the apostles to raise people who have been dead for days, and to give sight to those who were born blind and cause those paralyzed since birth to walk. God still heals people and does miraculous things, but God isn't doing some of the things that were done in the Bible times.
No one is speaking in tongues and prophesying anymore, for the scriptures are finished, and we have everything we need to know to be saved and lead us to eternal life.
Even in the New Testament times, the people didn't have to give ten percent of their income every month. A person was to be a cheerful giver, and those who didn't have a lot of money and gave, they gave MORE than the ten percent the rich gave!
There are no more churches anymore as in the Bible times. All the denominations nowadays teach falseness to some degree or another. They want money to pay for their life and to keep a big building paid for. The churches in the New Testament time were in people's homes!
Some people are gifted with more money in this world, and can give it. We are to help our own family in the best way we can. The churches in the New Testament times were told to help the widows in their own family, and the churches weren't even to help widows unless they had but one husband and were a help to the church.
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During the New Testament times, the greatest time ever, God testified to what was taught, by allowing many signs and miracles.
God still does miracles in our life, but not exactly as was done during the laying of the foundation.
JESUS SAID Nathanael BELIEVED because Jesus told him he saw him under the fig tree. JESUS said that was WHY NATHANAEL BELIEVED. See John 1:50.
This, the first of his miraculous signs, Jesus performed at Cana in Galilee. He thus revealed his glory, and his disciples put their faith in him. See John 2:11
After he was raised from the dead, his disciples recalled what he had said. Then they believed the Scripture and the words that Jesus had spoken. See John 2:22.
Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Feast, many people saw the miraculous signs he was doing and believed in his name. John 2:23.
Then the father realized that this was the exact time at which Jesus had said to him, “Your son will live.” So he and all his household believed. John 4:53
Still, many in the crowd put their faith in him. They said, “When the Christ comes, will he do more miraculous signs than this man?” John 7:31.
Do not believe me unless I do what my Father does. John 10:37.
But if I do it, even though you do not believe me, believe the miracles, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.” John 10:38.
and for your sake I am glad I was not there, so that you may believe. But let us go to him.” John 11:15.
I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.” John 11:42.
Now we can see that you know all things and that you do not even need to have anyone ask you questions. This makes us believe that you came from God.” John 16:30.
So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”
But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it.” John 20:25.
Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” John 20:27.
Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” John 4:39.
And because of his words many more became believers. John 4:41.
They said to the woman, “We no longer believe just because of what you said; now we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this man really is the Savior of the world.” John 4:42.
“Unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders,” Jesus told him, “you will never believe.” John 4:48.
But these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name. John 20:31.
Signs of the times.
All the more reasons to trust the Lord Jesus Christ to deliver us from all evil works and preserve us unto His heavenly kingdom.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
As well as not to be overcharged by the cares of this life and so we are to pray for His help to escape also.
Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Thanks for sharing.
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No, you dont know what you are saying.
Every denomination has its plusses and misuses, God is well aware of all these things. And He condemns no one who tries, not even the JW. And there are many others you do not know of nor accept.
Despite all our differences, God Loves all mankind, He created everyone, and all are His Children. It is not our job to judge who is or who is not . What are job is, is to continue reaching out to both those who do not know Jesus and to those who do.
What matters most, is that each of us can learn to fall in love with God. Individually and collectively. And to forgive and recieve forgiveness
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Gregoryp who named you a judge over who is a good preacher? Who named any of us? Nobody! If you make a judgment of this kind, you are in disobedience
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You are badly mistaken, for God's Truth matters.
False doctrines are why there are divisions among Christians.
Paul warns us not to be of this world and say we follow mere men.
There are the Catholics that claim succession from Peter.
There are the Baptists who claim they follow after John the baptizer.
There are the JW's and the Seventh Day Adventists, who follow Charles Taze and Ellen White.
There are the Lutherans and Calvinists, and Wesleyans, ETC.
We are not to believe and teach falseness.
Romans 16:17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
1 Timothy 1:3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer
Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a curse!
Galatians 1:9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be under a curse!
2 Thessalonians 3:6 Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from any brother who leads an undisciplined life that is not in keeping with the tradition you received from us.
2 Thessalonians 3:14 Take note of anyone who does not obey the instructions we have given in this letter. Do not associate with him, so that he may be ashamed.
1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1 Timothy 4:16 Watch your life and doctrine closely. Persevere in them, because if you do, you will save both yourself and your hearers.
2 Timothy 2:26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.
Reject False Doctrines
1 Timothy 6:3If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; 4He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, 5Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
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Ok and what about you, you say i follow the bible. But you will only follow it as far as your understanding goes.
I have no ptoblem with that, except one thing. If your experience is so limited, how can you trust when others tell the truth.
This is where Gifts of the Holy Spirit come in. Discernment. If you have the Gift of Discernment, use it, or at least try.
I could tell you about my work with Angels. Ordained by God the Father. And you will say, that isnt in the bible. But it is in the bible, except your understanding or your interpretation doesnt or wont see it that way. If you use Discernment, you will know the truth
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Everyone makes those judgements. It happens for a veriety of reasons. What is important isnt just reading scripture, but hearing what is said.
Jesus teaches , if they are not against us, then they are for us.
Maybe the Protestants need to look a little closer at that phrase, because lately they seem to be against everyone at least here in Talk Jesus.
Best look at the 7 churches in Revelation as He will cast out those who are not abiding in Him as they ought to be; Revelation 2:18-25 being an example of saved believers being left behind for not departing from iniquity..
God loves all mankind and although He had created every one from the womb, not all are His children.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Galatians 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith..... 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
God will be judging His House at the rapture event ( 1 Peter 4:17 ) and so there is just cause to warn believers of certain iniquities because they risk losing out on being partakers of the firstfruits of the resurrection in being left behind.
Ephesians 5:10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
John 7:7 The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
Paul warned us in Hebrews that any saved believer thinks that they need to receive another sacrifice for sins as if the blood of the covenant is likened unto the blood of goats & bulls that bears repeating, will incur God's wrath as He will judge His people for using communion in that way when communion is only to be done in remembrance of Him for what He has done at His death.
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Catholics and Protestants claim they are not sacrificing Him all over again, but they are still receiving that same one time sacrifice for sins "again" that it bears repeating. Indeed, to believe His Presence is in the bread & the wine is to commit idolatry; thus making sacrifices of devils.
1 Corinthians 10:14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge ye what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread. 18 Behold Israel after the flesh: are not they which eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? 19 What say I then? that the idol is any thing, or that which is offered in sacrifice to idols is any thing? 20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils. 21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils. 22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he? 23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.
Because of this kind of heresy is the proof that God's wrath can fall on believers as they can be at risk of being left behind as some Protestant churches do begin communion with "We come into His Presence today.." which is not in according to our faith when He is in us and with us always.
1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
2 Corinthians 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
After reading this warning about how those who profess Him and yet because of this iniquity which I seem to read here that may pertain to how they are wrongfully doing communion, they can be denied by Him & left behind.
Luke 13:24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. 25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are: 26 Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets. 27 But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity. 28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out. 29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God. 30 And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.
So we do not come to the Lord by way of communion; we come to the Lord by way of Jesus Christ, the Son of God as He is in us and with us always that we can worship Him any where to the glory of God the Father.
Anyway, God's wrath can fall on believers for not abiding in Him & His words ( Not verse 6 of John 15:1-8 ). Those who are left behind are still His, but shall receive stripes per the knowledge they had for not being ready & lesser stripes per the knowledge they did not have, for not being ready, but still His servants ( Luke 12:40-49 ) because when they die ( Revelation 2:18-25 ), their spirits will be with the Lord in heaven ( 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 & 2 Corinthians 5:7-11 ), awaiting their resurrection after the great tribulation to serve the King of kings on earth ( Revelation 20:1-6 ) as vessels unto dishonor in His House for not having departed from iniquity before the Bridegroom had come; 2 Timothy 2:19-21
Believers in these latter days need to trust the Lord Jesus Christ as their Good Shepherd to destroy the works of the devil in their lives to be found abiding in Him and to help them be willing to go in leaving everything and every one behind when the Bridegroom comes.
Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure........ 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
You cannot avoid calling believers to depart from iniquity without being seen as judging the works they are in as of darkness. There is no other way to lead those that are astray to repentance other than to judge the works as evil. By His grace & by His help, then they shall see their need for Jesus, not only for forgiveness but to keep them from those sins & iniquities until He brings us Home.
In all things, always keep your eyes on Jesus Christ because the Bridegroom will be coming soon. That is what the real indwelling Holy Spirit is doing in keeping your focus on the Son whereas the spirits of the antichrist; antichrist meaning as used in scripture; "instead of Christ", would take your focus off of the Son to themselves to chase after them for their visitations with signs & lying wonders, thus seducing believers in seeking to receive what has been assumed to be the Holy Ghost again after a sign when it is not.
Believers need to shun tongues for private use by praying normally and chase no more after seducing spirits when the real Holy Spirit has been in them since salvation at the calling of the gospel when they had first believed in Jesus Christ. It is the only way to repent by being out of the market, from seeking to be filled with oil, when they had been always Spirit-filled from the beginning since the calling of the gospel, so as to be ready for the Bridegroom when He comes.
