the devil is the adversary did it have freewill and did it reblled and had self consciouness ? Yes. we must not do what he did showed that love creates self awareness and life finds A way in evil aswell strange in the universe A being such as the devil loved like God and he did wrong ! -_- but is what we all fail at trying to understand those things before our time but we have no business at that we must continue in salvation . Thank God Jesus died for us and what was between the devil and him is not our business.
Remember The Bird was made to fly, the fish was made for the water, and The "ADVERSARY was Made to be An "Adversary" the Fire was created to burn, The wind was created to blow. The Adversary can do, no other but be an Adversary. That was his purpose. And He is "PERFECT" at it. For He HAVE DECEIVED THE WHOLE WORLD, even NOW, we all are deceived by His Craftiness and Beauty, those saved and the unsaved. Only to a special group of the "ELECT of GOD", He shines out, like a "Beacon" in a DARK PLACE. For God Our Father Would have it, to be so. For He is "SOVEREIGN". And GOD"S WILL is ALWAYS be DONE, And ALWAYS "Manifested" and His will never never fails. He is not a man, and we call Him "GOD"! But I will declare He Is More. Our brain cannot go there. Our Brain is "FINITE" we cannot even imagine what It is all about. But to be "BORN into THE IMAGE" of "The TRIUNE GOD" The SON, THE FATHER, THE PARAKLETOS" and When we see Him, WE SHALL BE JUST LIKE HIM, and WE THE Sons OF GOD" will "INHERIT" A SHARED Inheritance With A JOINT RULE, A IRON SCEPTER with
"The SON of THE LIVING GOD".
And Every KNEE will BOW! and we will not be asking! Instant JUSTICE, faster than You can "Whistle Dixie".
I think you, you got your information from the wrong source. Have you read The whole Bible as One Book, without any kind of interference or have you been listening to people about the devil and what Creation is all about.
I think you got some things wrong, The purpose of Creation and for what purpose GOD the FATHER Had His Son Create all Creation. And All the rest is Nothing but waste.
Romans 8 (NASB)
[For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19For the eagerly awaiting creation waits for the revealing of the sons and daughters of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself also will be Set Free From Its Slavery To corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.]
Most Christians have no idea of what happen in The fall and don't care and most pastors and church bible teachers do not know either. But pass on lie after lies and lies have
"Tentacles" not knowingly. And those lies have been growing for many and many years and have taken strong Roots.
And they only thing we can do, who knows The TRUTH, is Keep speaking Truth , even Though No one will understand nor listen, and The Truth will only fall deeper into The darkness until The Light cannot shine. Then From The SKY He will appear with "The ARMIES from HEAVEN" Riding WHITE HORSES" EYES like Flaming FIRE, Vesture Dripping In BLOOD, Hair white as WOOL, Feet Like Polish Brass. And A Sword in His Mouth. which Is "The WORD OF GOD". "For Vengeance is Mines I will repay"
Example:
John 13:18
I am not speaking about all of you; I know whom I have chosen.
But this is to fulfill the Scripture: 'The one who shares My bread has lifted up his heel against Me.'
NASB 1977
Jesus answered them,
“Did I Myself not choose you, the twelve, and
yet one of you is a devil?”
John 6:64
But there are some of you that believe not.
For Jesus knew from
THE BEGINNING {before Genesis] who they were that believed not, and who should betray him.
As soon as most christians grow into maturity, and realize GOD is Not A human, And we cannot Define Him. It is Impossible to do so. He is not a part maker, That when He creates something, The part might fail. No, everything is according to His plan, For mankind and This universe is Not why God made all creation, For All Creation will be shaken and Only what is Eternal shall remain. People are nothing but a creation, made from created dirt. And really not important, but A tool, In the eyes of GOD, His SON is, whom He Loves and Whoever loves HIS SON He will Love them and to be sure, The FATHER planted That LOVE in Them, before The Foundations of All creation. God The FATHER does not share tears, concerning Mankind! We all will see, He will reveal Whom he is and Who He cares for. People think, as if Our Father is human and have A Heart as if He was human being.
That is one reason JESUS warn us About HIM. And Many christians still do not believe the words That Jesus has spoken to us. For Peter's we are.
And they think the way they see love is the way God is Love, no way, For HIs thoughts are no way like our thoughts, HIS LOVE IS NO WAY LIKEN UNTO OUR LOVE. And The Day will Come when many of the human race is going to think He is Devil. And his appearance, that is "CHRIST" is Going to Terrify the whole world they are going to Think he Is The DEVIL. For the Devil is a "Beauty Creature" one of the most "Beautiful Of All the Creatures that God has made. His voice is so clam and sweet, Cunning as he is. Sweet words, comforting words he has all the languages in his bag of toys, for in that he is most skilled.
But when Our GOD Speaks men tremble mountains are laid low,
For All bow to Holiness, When Jesus comes To Reign, Eyes like Flaming Fire, Hair white as wool, Vesture dripping in Blood and every knee will bow, Because he will rule with a "IRON ROD" they will Bow, those who refuse to Bow He Will break their Knees with that Rod.! They Will BOW. Satan have never make men bow to him. He gives gifts and bribes, Gold and jewels, cars and money and women and men, and Trinkets, He appears as a "ANGEL of LIGHT" shinning bright.. He has the things the whole world desirers, trips vacations, christine beaches. But all of those things, GOD the FATHER is Bring to an END. For earth is spewing the people out. By Command Given By "The GOD ALMIGHTY".
PSALM 2 NASB
"He said to Me, ‘You are My Son,
Today I have fathered You.
8‘Ask it of Me, and I will certainly give the nations as Your inheritance,
And the ends of the earth as Your possession.
9‘"You shall break them with a rod of iron, "
You shall shatter them like earthenware."
The ADVERSARY, Works for GOD. For He is Not Independent, The Adversary is nothing but a Created Creature spoken into existence By "JESUS" The WORD of GOD" who was With GOD in The beginning and Always have been and He never was Not in Existence. With the FATHER.
If he spoke him into existence he can speak him out with a word. The SON can. The ADVERSARY is A creation Created By The Son speaking him into existence.
How simple and plain is that. my 3 year old knew that. I taught my children like "GOD" gave me the COMMAND, He did not tell me to let another man or church teach my Children. I obeyed. it does not mean they will stay in the path, but I taught them. I gave them not unto another creature or a religious institution , I would not turn my children over to a church or another man or women, And i taught them do not trust another preacher, religious man or women, Read your Bible and pray to GOD to teach you, If GOD by himself cannot teach you, No body else can, Do not Trust, place not your soul into another human hands.
JOHN 1 NASB
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2[a]He was in the beginning with God. 3All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not even one thing came into being that has come into being.
Jesus created The devil, just by speaking. because his Father told him to, for a purpose. And creation is not about Mankind, All creation is nothing but a mold.
and when the mold is finish The FATHER will cast it all away. All creation is Futile.
Some people think we are important, we are, but not like A human being thinks. Humans got it all wrong! Now that is going to be a big blow to many. And a few will understand What "GOD'S Grace and Mercy" really is!
You better rejoice
because your name is written in heaven.
You have done nothing to get it put there. And that will be another shocking blow to many, When they see. How close they were, Not by choice, But chosen. Before The Foundations of the WORLD. Neither done good or bad. But By GOD before The Future existed. There was no future to look in, No time to look down, for there was Nothing so it is NO way That GOD could look into something that did not exist. So Since He could not look into something that did not exist, So he Ordain it and Gave His Decree" that all may come to be! Just like He wanted it to be! According how He wanted every drop and every spill, all have been design by GOD, He is liken to the Potter that "Sculptures" The Clay, every line, every mark, the curves and the bends. The shape of the hands the bow in the knee, the slant of the head, the gaze in the eyes. The sneeze that comes out of the nose, the cough from the throat. The gait in the walk, even the sway of the movement of the hands .
The devil, works for GOD, and He obey's and all of the demons. Even their rebellion, have been decreed by God. Now if we think That a "FINITE" mind, can understand the ways of GOD as if His ways Are human. that makes us even more sinful. The whole BOOK of GOD declares this TRUTH! from GENESIS to REVELATION" But the Human mind is an enemy of GOD. So when it thinks and reason on Its own, it is in total Rebellion just like the demons of Hell. And it speaks the things of mankind and not the thoughts of GOD.
New International Version
But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God?
“Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it,
‘Why did you make me like this?’”
Isaiah 10:15
Does an axe raise itself above the one who swings it? Does a saw boast over him who saws with it? It would be like a rod waving the one who lifts it, or a staff lifting him who is not wood!
Isaiah 29:16
You have turned things upside down, as if the potter were regarded as clay.
Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, "He did not make me"? Can the pottery say of the potter, "He has no understanding"?
Isaiah 45:9
Woe to him who quarrels with his Maker--one clay pot among many.
Does the clay ask the potter, 'What are you making?' Does your work say, 'He has no hands'?
Isaiah 64:8
But now, O LORD, You are our Father; we are the clay, and You are the potter;
we are all the work of Your hand.
The time will come, when God will reveal Why to all, but some of us already knows why, Because he is A rewarder to those Who diligently seeks HIM. And have run the race legally.
And
American Standard Version
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my word: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
For many do know The Son, but all do not know the Father yet.
Not until:
New American Standard Bible
"All things have been handed over to Me by My Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father;
nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and anyone
to whom the Son DETERMINES TO reveal Him."
And so sad for now, because many knows The SON, But The SON has not reveal The FATHER to them yet!
And neither do they understand what that means at this time. Until he returns or The Mature grows Up for STRONG MEAT is ONLY FOR THE STRONG, And Most women Cannot take the smell let alone Eat the meat!
I have spoke to people about that and they did not believe me, and they thought i was imagining things, They had The "holy Spirit" but still Jesus the word of God was not Their LORD. When He did become their LORD, when they submitted, and Then the day, when Jesus Revealed, Introduce Them, to THE FATHER, They ran and told with tears in their eyes, and I rejoice to see The Magnificent on Their Face. And I could see the Light, in Their eyes, more Glorious Than The Joy of The Holy SPIRIT when They First believed.
But many christians are stuck in :tongues and denominations, and verses. and fighting about doctrines, instead of Sitting at the feet of JESUS dining With the FATHER, Who needs Hebrew And Greek. When you are dining with "GOD". "The Triune GOD' all Three and you are sitting at Their table. And you do not have to say One word or ask anything of them!
And many do not know what that mean! Unless you have been there.. no questions, needed everything is known. And no words to explain about sitting at the table and dining with GOD!
Many rather dine with the Religious food of mankind, instead of the Manna that is at GOD"S TABLE.
There is only One will, It supersedes all wills. That will is "The WILL of GOD". His will is done on earth just like it is Done In HEAVEN! GOD RULES Not The Devil or mankind, The devil has gotten his orders from GOD! None have their OWN WILL, They who thinks they have a will they have been deceive By the ADVERSARY that was Created By GOD! And commission to Make War with The Remnants of The LAMB.
World English Bible
?The dragon grew angry with the woman, and went away to make war with the rest of her seed, who keep God's commandments and hold Jesus' testimony.? >>>>>>>>>>>>{The True Children of GOD, Born of His SPIRIT wash in His blood, Those who are Born from Above"] how could the devil and demons be at war with God and His SON! THAT is "LUDICROUS" THE DEVIL AT WAR WITH GOD OR JESUS. I ain't that ignorant! I told you that devil ,will place crazy unscrupulous thoughts in the mind of humans.
He is at War with us, "The Remnant of GOD" he does not like us. The world he likes The people of this world, he likes.
And pride has over taken them. How can anything be in "Bondage" and Call themselves free, for They are in "The BONDAGE of DECEPTION" and being deceived thinking they have a "FREEDOM" of their own Will! And trapped in the Dark, so they cannot see that they are in "BONDAGE"! And Trapped and deceived and not knowing it! Even some Christians, Blinded by the Spell of Pride and Think that they are in charge.
Slaves being a slave to their own Bondage of The mind and refuse to be set free. and become a slave to "Christ Jesus" calling Him "LORD" If you are his slave then why do you, not do what he says! you have no will. If you are free you have No "LORD" and No MASTER! And You can only serve One MASTER, it is impossible to serve two, for the Father will not allow you to serve two, either you are a slave to God or A slave to the Bondages of SIN!
Beware it is easy to be deceived for he is" The ADVERSARY" "The Master of Deception" an Angel of Light to us. Pretty, beautiful smooth words , Charming, calming words nice and gentle. to the touch, A "Black Widow Spider", A "Praying Mantis", A "Femme Fatale". And Many have been destroyed by his charm.
When Cupid Firer that dart ARROW and hit that mark, we will see how much
"will" you got.
on your way To HELL!
In the hood, they say:
"I am in Love with a woman I cannot stand"
Freewill my foot, If she is the right woman, or if he is the right man! Your will go out the door!
"Do we have freewill ? did we have freewill since the beginning ?"
Adam settle that question a long time ago!
God said have you eaten from that tree?
His reply: It was that WOMAN YOU GAVE ME! She gave to me and I ate!
[You gave her to me and you knew, She was going to pick it and eat it and she was going to give to me and I was going to eat it, right out of her hands, As beautiful as She was, and Once we mated and a fell into her arms and felt her skin on mines, you knew i was going to forget about everything you said to me about a tree! You knew, what she was going to do to me , you made her. You trap me! And i don't know why. And Adam did not say to us another word in over 900 year. There is not one more word recorded about him.]
He knew GOD trap him. andI never could figure out why. Why did God Trick me like that. He thought about that for over 900 years!
Free will my foot! I prayed down through the years, "LORD keep My feet out of Slippery places" My will is in "bondage" one way or the other. If she is the right one, I am praying, for my feet to start running in the other direction! Then Thy Will, will be done and not mines.
I have counsel people, run, but they found out the Hard way! " He that thinketh He stands take heed lest He falls"
The devil knows What you like. Every curve every gesture and the look in the eyes, "LORD" help me. i like the way she calls my name, and turns her head and look at me. make you leave job, house, kids, and wife. Spend all the kids College money and Mortgage.
And if That Cupid Fires That arrow and hit you! Put a spell on you. If you have never been hit, you do not know this stuff is real!
Then you understand you run and dunk!
I am laughing But I telling the truth. she will make you have a "Heart Attack" Your Blood start pumping and running through those veins. Make you Flatline! Everybody will be asking you what happen to you? I know i am right, i pass out onetime in the bathroom my wife said i was out, my eyes rolled back in my head. She told her brothers and friends what had happen to me. And everybody had a idea what had happen to me, and told her next time call the emergency services, they said i had this and that. And i ask her did you tell them what you was doing to me to cause me to black out! She said no!
People think they know everything.
So since we where talking about freewill i got real. Where it counts "From GENESIS to Revelation" form "ADAM to "The Great hore"!
You see they do not Preach the whole counsel of God in the church any more" if they do, it is so hard to find, like a straight pin in Hay Stack.
But God is raising a few, that are "BOLD' and that will speak The TRUTH, like Jesus and John The Baptist, "It Is not Right to have your Brother's wife" and "The PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES are Running over with this practice, having your own brother's wife. Just like they did in The "CORINTH" church in the Bible. Copying other "Christians Churches" You do remember "ONEIDA". AND ALL THE HISTORY'S OF THE PENTECOSTAL CHURCHES. I know, What has been done in the dark have come to light.
The Writer said:
"LORD, keep my feet out of Slippery places."
And When The Psalmist got old. he wrote:
" when My foot Slipped, Lord, your Love sustain me"
We all are helpless and our wills cannot sustain us or keep us, where we are to be kept. It is by "grace alone" that we all stand.
PloughBoy
PS the name devil is word given by The Roman Catholic Church. The true Name And Meaning is "THE ADVERSARY", Either serve GOD or the Roman Catholics.
I am so glad i learn all of my biblical Truths before there was a Public Internet services and that I learn the hard copy way, and i can see the deceptions in the internet lexicons, and the translations so easy, I do not even trust the dictionaries and lexicons, any more concerning the Biblical text that is online I see the curve of the pen, An I see clearly that the DeviL rules the dictionaries and the lexicons, and word definitions. All of the kingdoms of this world is his. And That God The FATHER sets His "Perimeters" and giving him more grounds to exercise that Authority of DECEPTIONS INTO ALL THINGS, AND some CHRISTIANS are more deceived than ever. and growing more and more as the days draws near. And the only thing we can do is speak and it does not mean a thing, put that the True Elect will hear just enough to get saved. and God will do the rest. for This Prophecy has come to pass and active, This Proclamation will dwindle down to the "biblically expression" "Two" Proclaimers.
Isaiah 42 NASB 77
"Who is blind but My servant,
Or so deaf as My messenger whom I send?
Who is so blind as he that is at peace with Me,
Or so blind as the servant of the LORD?"
"You have seen many things, but you do not observe them;
Your ears are open, but none hears."
Once again PloughBoy