If the church is “Raptured” in this generation, what are the people left still, in the “Institutionalized church”, called?

[Sue D.]

Many years ago the Lord gave me a vision, where i saw all the Children of God . They came from all the Christain Churches including Catholic Jews, Muslims and many others around the World .

All were bickering back and forth of who had the niche on God. " We know God , you don't " and so on.

What God then said. "" There are many, many many here who love me, and I love all of them ""

From my understanding of Scripture -- visions, whatever , if they don't match up with God's Word -- they are not from God. The Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Allah is Not the same as God the Father in the Bible and the Qaran is Not God's Word. Now -- people from all over the world CAN and Do come to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

Muslims are Not of the Christian faith. They are Not Christ-followers.

 

[Bill]

the Holy Spirit is the only true Teacher...

Indeed , it was the Lord that brought us together

 

[Bill]

From my understanding of Scripture -- visions, whatever , if they don't match up with God's Word -- they are not from God. The Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Allah is Not the same as God the Father in the Bible and the Qaran is Not God's Word. Now -- people from all over the world CAN and Do come to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

Muslims are Not of the Christian faith. They are Not Christ-followers.

I do not judge people by titles , it has to do with where your heart is

 

[Bill]

From my understanding of Scripture -- visions, whatever , if they don't match up with God's Word -- they are not from God. The Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Allah is Not the same as God the Father in the Bible and the Qaran is Not God's Word. Now -- people from all over the world CAN and Do come to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

Muslims are Not of the Christian faith. They are Not Christ-followers.

Like i said to Bro Paul . When the Lord shows me things . I dont sit there and say i know more than you . But if i dont understand , then i ask

 

[rag4acrown1]

How do you know a warrior doesnt get entangled with the affairs of this world . What of the Two Witnesses ??? They are definitely Gods warriors

The Word tells us so. Look it up.
The two witnesses are entangled with God and His affairs, going about in this world, but are not of this world. Just as our Lord would go to town, or the country side, or the synagogues...He returned to the jungle and was about the Father and "heavenly" affairs.
Even Judas was a chosen vessel of God, he knew where the Lord could be found in the woods; he wasn't at the inn. The upper crust of the synagogue paid him to tell. Now go with our hired soldiers and bring him to us.
Now God doesnt lead His children blinded folded...never has, never will. Jesus knew they were coming, even as He told Judas go quickly do what you were sent to do.

A warrior for God isnt punching a time clock and standing in line at Wal-Mart for food.
Have we believed yet?
He is the same...
Yesterday
Today
And Forever.

Do you know God is able to give you water out of a rock in the middle of a desert? Or give figs? Or feed the birds? Or give one tax out of a fishes mouth?
God bless.

 

[rag4acrown1]

From my understanding of Scripture -- visions, whatever , if they don't match up with God's Word -- they are not from God. The Muslims do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God. Allah is Not the same as God the Father in the Bible and the Qaran is Not God's Word. Now -- people from all over the world CAN and Do come to accept Jesus Christ as the Messiah.

Muslims are Not of the Christian faith. They are Not Christ-followers.

Tbless.That does not mean they are not saved. There are 12 gates, 12 tribes.
The are to follow and teach according to the way they have learned.
Christians are to do the same.
In which don't take part or get into controversies other than what you've been taught, it will lead to evil rivalings.
God bless

 

[rag4acrown1]

Indeed , it was the Lord that brought us together

Indeed

 

[Brother-Paul]

Greetings brother,

Take into mind , the Vision came from God . I dont try to tell God how to think .

I am not doubting your word my friend, but I have to take scripture as The Truth in all situation, we all are to do so.

Maybe you missed something , like that phrase in Scripture ( do you believe the Scripture is the Word of God , that is Jesus ? ) John 1 : 1

If I had missed something I would be first to hold my hand up, I have in the past.

In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. The verse is imprinted in my mind and my heart brother.

That passage in Scripture where Mary is speaking Luke 1 : 49 " From this day forward all generations will call me blessed "

Does your bible say that , if so , do you call Mary blessed ? If not Why? I thought you followed the Bible . Or is it only when it suits you ?

The passage is clear, from that day forward, all generations shall call Mary Blessed. [FULL STOP] It goes no further than calling her Blessed, Blessed Virgin Mary.

No one come to the Father except through Jesus, Jesus is the intercessor of ALL prayers. Not Mary.

You see , this is the Word of God . Jesus inspired those who wrote it . There is purpose . Nothing that God does is without purpose , even if we dont understand it

I am finding Bill, and I say this in love, that you are thinking you are the only one who knows these things. Jesus is God, God the Son, everything He did was the Father's will, His words inspired all who followed Him, now the Holy Spirit does this through every saved souls heart.

Blessings

Shalom

 

[Sue D.]

People are known By their titles.

Donald Trump is known by his title -- President Trump.

I'm known by my many titles -- mother, grandmother, great grandmother , widow -- which means I used to be married.

I'm a conservative Baptist -- I identify as a born again believer.

When a person says they are RCC, I know what their basic beliefs are. Or as I'd sit down and talk With a person I take time to listen and ask questions.

A Muslim person is going to be following Allah / Mohummad and Not Jesus Christ.

 

[Sue D.]

John 14:6 Jesus is telling mankind that "I am the Way, the Truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me."

 

[Brother-Paul]

well -- Mary was the mother of Jesus. And the Luke passage Does say that -- but just previously vs 46 her soul is magnifying the Lord and her spirit is rejoicing in God her Savior -- future generations will call her blessed because He who is mighty has done great things for her. And holy is His name." There are those who take those comments as a springboard for Highly exalting her -- Praying through her -- when Scripture tells us that Jesus Christ is The mediator between God and mankind.

Greeting @Sue D.

It is because they do not know the scriptures, though they profess to know them.

It is because of what they teach each other and so accept.

Luke 1:47-50 (NKJV)
47 And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior.
48 For He has regarded the lowly state of His maidservant; For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed.
49 For He who is mighty has done great things for me, And holy is His name.
50 And His mercy is on those who fear Him From generation to generation.

What is clear here is that Mary, having realised the enormaty of being chosen, is humbling herself before God, giving God the Glory.

The Catholic church reverse this as they do with our Lord's comments with Peter, Mary is not making herself a celebrity or standing on an orange box as if saying look at me, God chose me, I am Blessed, all generations will call me blessed. No, she is doing the reverse, she is humbling herself before God, for He who is Mighty has done a great thing for her, Holy is His Name.

We are to accept Mary as Blessed by God as the chosen one to bear the Christ child, the promised saviour, being chosen by God for this purpose is to fulfill scripoture, and to bring Glory to God. Emmanuel with us, to the Glory of God our Father.

Blessings

 

[Brother-Paul]

John 14:6 Jesus is telling mankind that "I am the Way, the Truth and the life, no man comes to the Father, but by Me."

And that gets a big AMEN from me Sue

God's

 

[rag4acrown1]

Being shot through the heart ....in the 'spiritual' be?

A 'spiritual' bullet?! going through a physical body?!

A person shot through the heart at point blank range would be dead immediately.

NOW -- IF a person was wearing a bullet-proof vest -- something like that Could happen.

Police men wear those frequently. They are very real bullets and the thick, heavy fabric in a bullet-proof vest will keep bullets from getting through and killing a person. And the impact of the bullet Will send them down and it will be painful from the impact on muscles. And occasionally a person Will be hit by a bullet, but the bullet would hit their police badge or a heavy-metal something and either lodge There or be deflected. And, again, knocks the person down -- catch their breath and be fine.

Many decades ago when my husband was in the military -- he Thought he saw a comrade being shot in the head -- he had a helmet on -- Doug saw the guy fall and Assumed it had killed him. He found out years later that the guy had been shot - the bullet had hit the front of his helmet -- instead of going Through the helmet and killing the guy -- the bullet went through the lining of the helmet and out the other side of it. The guy had definitely done down -- Doug had been in an area that he wasn't supposed to be in as had the other soldier. IF they had both been in a 'safe' zone, none of that would have happened. He thought he'd witnessed a friendly-fire episode and it shook him up a great deal.

The spiritual manifests itself in the flesh!
A spiritual happening that had impact on a flesh body.
Mayb go read it again.
The impact of a spiritual bullet took me physically backwards 3 steps. Grabbing my chest and gasping for air in the physical. Three hard gasps for physical air and just as fear was about to take me...my breathing was restored whole.
Yes the spiritual manifest in the flesh.

 

[PloughBoy]

Sounds like a fiery dart to me. That is why he said; take and keep that shield up! If you every get hit by one of those flaming arrows you will learn how to dunk next time, it will not kill you, but it will give you a heck of wound. 6 chapter of Ephesians. warns you big time. It hurts too!!!!

 

[Bill]

People are known By their titles.

Donald Trump is known by his title -- President Trump.

I'm known by my many titles -- mother, grandmother, great grandmother , widow -- which means I used to be married.

I'm a conservative Baptist -- I identify as a born again believer.

When a person says they are RCC, I know what their basic beliefs are. Or as I'd sit down and talk With a person I take time to listen and ask questions.

A Muslim person is going to be following Allah / Mohummad and Not Jesus Christ.

Sue , if a woman loves God with her heart , does she love Jesus ?

The answer is yes . This is because loving God deep in the heart can only come from God . Scripture tells us this to. In loving God , the person already loves Jesus and the Holy Spirit .

Those people are born again in spirit .

That passage you keep saying was ment " Only " for the Jews Rom 2 : 12 thru 29 ( meaning direct physical desendants from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob
) is also written for the spiritual Jews . And We are amouung them .
You are always so practical in your thinking , God is much more than practical . Im trying hard to open you to see as God sees . It is the spiritual side you keep missing .

God is so much more than face value . His love extends deeply to the world . Knowing Jesus is not just a physical thing . Jesus says , love God with all your mind , love God with all your heart , love God with all your soul , and love God with all you are .

It is the same as the Trinity . Any part of the Trinity a person loves from thier heart . That person already loves all of who God is . The person may not know ( physically ) who Christ is , but because the person loves God . They have already accepted Jesus as Lord .

This understanding will be given to them at death .

Think of the story Jesus spoke about Mathew 25 : 31 to 44 .

Passage 34 reads Come, you whom my Father has blessed, take for your heritage the Kingdom prepared for you " 35 , for i was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you made me welcome, naked and you clothed me, sick and you visited me, in prison and you came to see me , then The Virtuous will say to him and reply, " Lord when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and make you welcome. And difficulty sleeping naked and clothed you, sick or in prison and go to see you? " and the King will answer, I tell you solemnly, insofar as you did it this to one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did it to me.

These Virtuous were before the throne in Heaven . They had already died and they were at Judgement . They did not know Jesus . But Jesus knew them .

 

[Bill]

Greetings brother,




I am not doubting your word my friend, but I have to take scripture as The Truth in all situation, we all are to do so.




If I had missed something I would be first to hold my hand up, I have in the past.

In the beginning was The Word, and The Word was with God, and The Word was God. The verse is imprinted in my mind and my heart brother.





The passage is clear, from that day forward, all generations shall call Mary Blessed. [FULL STOP] It goes no further than calling her Blessed, Blessed Virgin Mary.

No one come to the Father except through Jesus, Jesus is the intercessor of ALL prayers. Not Mary.




I am finding Bill, and I say this in love, that you are thinking you are the only one who knows these things. Jesus is God, God the Son, everything He did was the Father's will, His words inspired all who followed Him, now the Holy Spirit does this through every saved souls heart.

Blessings

Shalom

You are not wrong in your thinking . But im trying to help you grow in spirit .

All your knowledge is fine , but when you grow up in spirit you will say to yourself . "Ah i see what he meant" . You might think you are eatting meat , but i can guarentee you it is a veggie diet .

Once you learn to recognize God's peace in your heart . THEN you will grow much faster . Its a matter of faith .

Can you step onto the water and know you will stay on top . It takes a lot of faith

 

[Bill]

The spiritual manifests itself in the flesh!
A spiritual happening that had impact on a flesh body.
Mayb go read it again.
The impact of a spiritual bullet took me physically backwards 3 steps. Grabbing my chest and gasping for air in the physical. Three hard gasps for physical air and just as fear was about to take me...my breathing was restored whole.
Yes the spiritual manifest in the flesh.

Be at peace . I know the truth .

Once in a spiritual battle i got hit in the chest. Physically i recieved 3 cracked ribs

Like i said my experience isnt the same as yours . But i understand it

 

[PloughBoy]

Could we please get back to the post. I just be watching and waiting.

 

[PloughBoy]

If the church is “Rapture” in this generation, what are the people left still, in the “Institutionalize church”, are called?

 

[PloughBoy]

Maybe some of the ones left, after the Rapture are those of another fold.

(John 10:16).
16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd

16I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd.