Lazarus and the Rich man...

[Rhema]

Then you have a different teaching authority and no closing Chapter . Why not Revelation?

Do you even read what people post, Garee ??

IT'S NOT IN OUR CANON.

And Revelation is a book, not a "chapter".

Rhema

 

[Garee]

Wrong again. I'm not Jewish, and as I've stated before, my biological father was a Nazi SS General, so ... nope... way not Jewish. besides, how would you know? You've directly stated that you've never met a Jew.

The Bible defines the terms and phrases .

A Jew or a Nazi is one outwardly according to the flesh . A Jew who is one inwardly not of the flesh but of the Spirt of Christ. If any man has not the unseen Spirit of Christ then he would not be considered a true born again Jew. Man looks upon the outside God looks upon the new born again heart

One Jew tried to get in with a ID or birth record (DNA) . Hoping his flesh could profit .Even Jesus the Son of man declared his flesh (powerless ) did not profit

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.








Romans 2:28
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

 

[Rhema]

The Bible defines the terms and phrases .

If you believe that, you would know what the Word of God means, and that it doesn't mean Word of God. (Can you figure that one out without help ??)


Rhema

 

[Bug]

I didn't say that you were a coward. PLEASE... I beg you to read what I actually wrote. Here it is again:


Since you're not a coward, I expect you then to craft a well written post that describes your concerns and explains where I'm wrong.

Kindly,
Rhema

(How is that not reasonable ??)

you can't just tell me to do something that i never agreed to you're just trying to start arguments.

 

[Bug]

H e or she is probably just trying to show how rude he or she can be.

You're not wrong

 

[Garee]

Do you even read what people post, Garee ??

IT'S NOT IN OUR CANON.

And Revelation is a book, not a "chapter".

Rhema

Yes I do read .Did you have a question?

I would offer. . There is no my Canon your Cannon or my Canon is greater than yours .or my dog is greater than your dog. . he eats Kennel Ration.

God is not served by human hands as a will in any way shape or form . We can taste by taking in in his living abiding word as he does work in us to both will and empower us to do His good will . He informs us do it without murmuring like that of Jesus the Son of man . Not as I will Father. (Philippians 2:13-14 )

The apostles were used as a example . . .not to think of sinful men above that which is written.(sola scriptura) Puffing up one against another. What they did and do it was freely given to them yoked with Christ . Its simply a wile of the devil to add or subtract from the perfect the revelation of God, the Bible (sola scriptura)

The other possibility produces false pride .Mankind cannot accredit one word of God to themselves let alone the whole cannon .

Sounds silly to think it is possible to attribute Canon authorities to the hands of sinners .

Revelation is the last new revelation in the book of the law .The signified understanding of parables . No adding or subtraction from the whole (perfect) It is sealed with 7 seals until the last day under the Sun . The end of temporal time.

1 Corinthians 4: 6-7 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure (parable) transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. For who maketh thee to differ from another? and what hast thou that thou didst not receive? now if thou didst receive it, why dost thou glory, as if thou hadst not received it?

 

[Rhema]

you can't just tell me to do something that i never agreed to you're just trying to start arguments.

What ??

Kind sir. Again I'm asking you to read what I wrote. I didn't TELL you to do anything.

But this shows that we have real communications problems at the most basic of levels, so it might be best if you put me on ignore.

As far as starting arguments, though, when did I ever declare that YOU should be banned ??

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Yes I do read .Did you have a question?

Of you?

Never.

So don't worry your little head, Garee.

Rhema

(Then again, why can't you ever seem to put the period in the correct place? Just curious. Were you taught English that way?)

 

[Rhema]

Revelation is the last new revelation in the book of the law .

Says who?

Upon what authority do you base that claim?

Rhema
(Oh dear Lord I'm asking questions....)
.

 

[Garee]

Says who?

Upon what authority do you base that claim?

Rhema
(Oh dear Lord I'm asking questions....)
.

The word of God . What makes you dismiss it?

 

[Garee]

Of you?

Never.

So don't worry your little head, Garee.

Rhema

(Then again, why can't you ever seem to put the period in the correct place? Just curious. Were you taught English that way?)

No worries . No one said you had to reply .

 

[Bug]

Of you?

Never.

So don't worry your little head, Garee.

Rhema

(Then again, why can't you ever seem to put the period in the correct place? Just curious. Were you taught English that way?)

..just leave

 

[Sue D.]

Rhema. -- you've had a put down of some sort to every in this thread.

I don't know what Canon of scripture you use. But the book of revelation is the last book in every Bi ble
It was the Romans who crucified Jesus Christ. And that took place in the New Testament.


Maybe you feel a need to put others down in order to make you feel better.

You feel the need to have your own translation from the Greek to English so as to get the Best translation possible. Your own private translation of John 1;1 shows that being your own translator and being able to find some people who are willing to agree with you isn't really doing you any favors.

 

[Sue D.]

The Jewish people have not accepted the birth of baby Jesus as being authentic. They wanted a gown man king to be their leader. So they are still anticipating his 1st coming which ,in reality, will be His second coming. And there are Messianic Jews who have come to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.

 

[Beetow]

H e or she is probably just trying to show how rude he or she can be.

Nowadays there's no harm in using neutral pronouns when you're not sure of
someone's gender and/or gender preference. For example your comment can be
revised like this:

"They are probably just trying to show how rude they can be."
_

 

[Sue D.]

@Beetow well the pronoun 'they' suggests two or more. We know that Rhema is one person. That's why I used he/ she.

 

[Rhema]

The word of God . What makes you dismiss it?

I have never dismissed the Word of God, whether LOGOS or RHEMA.

I have come to understand, though, that your definitions are flawed.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

..just leave

(How rude..........)
.

Sorry bug, unless you're the owner...

But if you're not here to talk, why are you here? To shut everybody else up?

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

I don't know what Canon of scripture you use.

You would, if you actually read my posts -

The link given above directs you to the New Testament of the Church of the East - a church started in Persia by the Apostle Thomas, one that was left uncorrupted by the Roman Empire.

as I've mentioned before, I loosely hold to the canon of the Church of the (far) East.

... you've had a put down of some sort to every in this thread.

And as a typical Baptist you show no respect whatsoever to others of the Faith. I thought you might be different. Please forgive the presumption.

Again, here is a link to the New Testament of the Church of East, started by the Apostle Thomas (or do you have no respect for him either?) -

TheAramaicScriptures.com

The Holy Aramaic Scriptures: With a literal English translation and transliteration of The Eastern Peshitta New Testament Text, such as given in The Khabouris Codex.

www.thearamaicscriptures.com

If you look at the table of contents, you can see what books are NOT in the canon. Books that were added in later by the Bishops of the RCC.

(Allow me to repeat...)

What I have asked you to consider is WHO compiled those books into your Bible, telling you that these were the ones chosen by God ?? And this "who" would be the Bishops of the Catholic Church in the late 390's. What I don't understand is how one can believe that God would make sure that the Catholics would select the "right" books for the Bible, but at the same time NOT make sure that these very same Catholics would teach a true message of salvation? As if God was more interested in writing a book than in saving souls.​

But the book of revelation is the last book in every Bi ble

No it isn't.

Again, please check the above link to see the table of contents of the New Testament of the Church of the East started by the Apostle Thomas, a Church MUCH older than either the Protestant heretics or the Roman heretics.

Maybe you feel a need to put others down in order to make you feel better.

Sue, take a look in the mirror. I've provided facts and logic to explain my views. You have not, while at the same time putting down my Church and my canon. Could you at least pretend to make an effort to actually address the issues I've posted?

You feel the need to have your own translation from the Greek to English so as to get the Best translation possible.

Apparently you have no concern whatsoever with translation mistakes in what you call the "Word of God" (so... that doesn't show much respect either).

Your own private translation of John 1;1

How is it private? I posted it publicly, although I didn't provide any in-depth step-by-step description of the translation process. I didn't think you would care. It is, though, a valid translation.

being your own translator and being able to find some people who are willing to agree with you isn't really doing you any favors.

I talk with translators all the time. We have wonderful discussions, and I've not yet been proven wrong. As I've mentioned, my CV includes Moravian Seminary and Princeton Theological.

As for "doing favors," the Baptists haven't helped you any.... (and I find that really sad).

What might be of great benefit to you would be a really good book on the history of the Christian Church. I'd recommend one, but you really wouldn't care, so ask your pastor to recommend a couple. You might find out that the Baptist denomination in America was started by Roger Williams up in Rhode Island.

Rhema

well the pronoun 'they' suggests two or more.

And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.​

(John 17:11 KJV)​

So are Jesus and the Father "they" ?? I think that I and my Father are one.

 

[Rhema]

It was the Romans who crucified Jesus Christ.

Not according to Peter -

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:​

(Acts 2:22-23 KJV)​

Rhema