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No The Lord will not occupy the third temple...We are the temple of the Holy Spirit now.
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Hebrews 9:28
"so also Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him."
(Titus 2) BSB/
"It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age, as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. He gave Himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds."…
PS We that are His "children", The "sons of The Living GOD" could never be dis-appointed in the time of His arrival. For He is our "Blessed Hope", and there is no way we could be dissatisfied, in the time table that, He has, laid down for us. For we do, believe everything is right on course and have not skip a beat! But one thing we do know: "He is at The Door" closer, than what we may think!
And We that are HIs "people, "Born of HIS Spirit, An "elected people" that has been , Born of GOD, into, "Eternity" that was "recorded' in a special BOOK, before the Foundations of The COSMOS and to receive a Divine shared Inheritance , that is going to be presented in a special event at a special place, to present To his Only Begotten SON! And that "Glory' will shine throughout "Eternity" and that brightness will get brighter every moment that, we will, exists! The Glorification of The WORD of GOD. For that day we were "Born of Heaven" we step into "Eternity" from the darkness into the Light! And that mere Brilliance of ours, have Blind that much more the people of this world! For we all know that, too much Brightness, Blinds a man.
American Standard Version (Colossians 3:4).
"When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then shall ye also with him be manifested in glory."
1 John 3:2
"Beloved, we are now the children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is." [ That Glorified Body].
Can you feel the blood running through your veins every time i READ 1 John 3: 2 I can feel the "Sanctification" touching my very soul! Thank You Jesus!
There is nothing on earth can touch that, and a Billionaire cannot buy it! For it is above his pay grade! i tell you, some of us are "richer" than we think. For our riches cannot fade away. Neither the Tokens of this world are tradable or precious enough in comparison to our "riches". That is Located in the Throne room of GOD! For we are a Kingdom of KINGS and Priest and we will Rule with The SON of the Living GOD! What God the Father have Prepared for US, who knows whether there be Brand New Universes, Galaxies, Sola Systems, Maybe even COSMOS! For Jesus Rule will have NO END! Can you Stretch your hands to the end of the Cosmos! or into the next universe. and do you know how many of them, HAs The Almighty GOD created, since this is "The Beginning"!
Our GOD is so Powerful and Great, our minds cannot comprehend HIS Greatness, and the capacity of His "Infinity"! His bounds are unsearchable for there is No End. For HE IS "Infinite" For HE IS "The Alpha & The Omega" You cannot reach unto the other side of HIM.
What kind of GOD is this ? who would not want to serve Him when you begin to know HIM for who He is! And the only way you can get to know Him The Son has to reveal Him to you!
"so also Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many; and He will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who eagerly await Him."
(Titus 2) BSB/
"It instructs us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live sensible, upright, and godly lives in the present age, as we await the blessed hope and glorious appearance of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ. He gave Himself for us to redeem us from all lawlessness and to purify for Himself a people for His own possession, zealous for good deeds."…
PS We that are His "children", The "sons of The Living GOD" could never be dis-appointed in the time of His arrival. For He is our "Blessed Hope", and there is no way we could be dissatisfied, in the time table that, He has, laid down for us. For we do, believe everything is right on course and have not skip a beat! But one thing we do know: "He is at The Door" closer, than what we may think!
And We that are HIs "people, "Born of HIS Spirit, An "elected people" that has been , Born of GOD, into, "Eternity" that was "recorded' in a special BOOK, before the Foundations of The COSMOS and to receive a Divine shared Inheritance , that is going to be presented in a special event at a special place, to present To his Only Begotten SON! And that "Glory' will shine throughout "Eternity" and that brightness will get brighter every moment that, we will, exists! The Glorification of The WORD of GOD. For that day we were "Born of Heaven" we step into "Eternity" from the darkness into the Light! And that mere Brilliance of ours, have Blind that much more the people of this world! For we all know that, too much Brightness, Blinds a man.American Standard Version (Colossians 3:4).
"When Christ, who is our life, shall be manifested, then shall ye also with him be manifested in glory."
1 John 3:2
"Beloved, we are now the children of God, and what we will be has not yet been revealed. We know that when Christ appears, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is." [ That Glorified Body].
Can you feel the blood running through your veins every time i READ 1 John 3: 2 I can feel the "Sanctification" touching my very soul! Thank You Jesus!
There is nothing on earth can touch that, and a Billionaire cannot buy it! For it is above his pay grade! i tell you, some of us are "richer" than we think. For our riches cannot fade away. Neither the Tokens of this world are tradable or precious enough in comparison to our "riches". That is Located in the Throne room of GOD! For we are a Kingdom of KINGS and Priest and we will Rule with The SON of the Living GOD! What God the Father have Prepared for US, who knows whether there be Brand New Universes, Galaxies, Sola Systems, Maybe even COSMOS! For Jesus Rule will have NO END! Can you Stretch your hands to the end of the Cosmos! or into the next universe. and do you know how many of them, HAs The Almighty GOD created, since this is "The Beginning"!
Our GOD is so Powerful and Great, our minds cannot comprehend HIS Greatness, and the capacity of His "Infinity"! His bounds are unsearchable for there is No End. For HE IS "Infinite" For HE IS "The Alpha & The Omega" You cannot reach unto the other side of HIM.
What kind of GOD is this ? who would not want to serve Him when you begin to know HIM for who He is! And the only way you can get to know Him The Son has to reveal Him to you!
@PloughBoy -- suspect that you misunderstood what I was saying, but, oh, well.
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I was not bouncing off of your post Sue, me and you always agree concerning Pre-Tri.
But in a sense I was strengthening our stance. Implicitly. concerning the Title Thread.
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Not understanding what that booklet has to do with the building of a temple. ?
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Jesus said this Mat_24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
There was a holy place in the temple when Jesus spoke those words.. The temple was flattened about 70 AD . What will make the third temple holy? It takes the presence of God to make a place holy. Not unlike the burning bush . Jesus did not say a place called holy He said holy place.
There was a holy place in the temple when Jesus spoke those words.. The temple was flattened about 70 AD . What will make the third temple holy? It takes the presence of God to make a place holy. Not unlike the burning bush . Jesus did not say a place called holy He said holy place.
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IT is not an article it is a booklet yes i found it and do not see a connection to the building of a temple.. My dispensational memory tells me the Scriptures lay out the pattern for the temple.
Dan was future . To my thinking the ,,birth,, life ,,,death ,,resurrection ,,,of Jesus the Christ is the center of everlasting life . Fully believing He will return not so much in the ways of dispensational teaching has stated.
IF God does not honor the temple there will not be a holy place for the 'abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, to stand.
Dan was future .
To my thinking the ,,birth,, life ,,,death ,,resurrection ,,,of Jesus the Christ is the center of everlasting life . Fully believing He will return not so much in the ways of dispensational teaching has stated. IF God does not honor the temple there will not be a holy place for the 'abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, to stand.
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The Bible doesn't talk about a third temple. The Temple in the Old Testament was the dwelling place of God, the place where heaven and earth met. Jesus pronounced judgement on the corrupt temple system and through his sacrifice inaugurated something better. 1 Corinthians 3
Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.
So it's possible that someone builds a big building and calls it a temple. But there can never again be a building which is the dwelling place of God. That role has been taken by us, the Body of Christ.
Do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person. For God’s temple is holy, and you are that temple.
So it's possible that someone builds a big building and calls it a temple. But there can never again be a building which is the dwelling place of God. That role has been taken by us, the Body of Christ.
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That article is the most antiChrist thing i have in a good number of years .
"He also says that the Third Temple will “bring the Light back into the world” that left the Temple Mount when the Lord’s Divine Presence departed. "
Act 7:47 But Solomon built him an house.
Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Act 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
"He also says that the Third Temple will “bring the Light back into the world” that left the Temple Mount when the Lord’s Divine Presence departed. "
Act 7:47 But Solomon built him an house.
Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet,
Act 7:49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?
Act 7:50 Hath not my hand made all these things?
Act 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.
Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;
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Rambam (Rabbi Moses Maimonides), a medieval Jewish philosopher and Torah scholar, said that the Temple has eternal significance.
He wrote in Hilchos Bais HaBechirah (The Laws of God’s Chosen House)
that the Temple had two primary purposes:
(Temple Institute) "
The rabbi can says what he believes God said this .
Heb_7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Heb_9:7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Heb_9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb_9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb_9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb_9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Rambam (Rabbi Moses Maimonides), a medieval Jewish philosopher and Torah scholar, said that the Temple has eternal significance.
He wrote in Hilchos Bais HaBechirah (The Laws of God’s Chosen House)
that the Temple had two primary purposes:
- To reveal to mankind the Divine Presence of God, which dwelt above the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant.
- To facilitate the offering of the required sacrifices.
(Temple Institute) "
The rabbi can says what he believes God said this .
Heb_7:27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Heb_9:7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
Heb_9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
Heb_9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb_9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Heb_9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
@Reba1 -- All I've suggested through those articles is that there Is supposed to be another temple built in the future -- good, bad or other-wise.
The conditions in this world are Not going to get any better. Gradually worse and worse.
So -- how long the Church will be here has been the question for a long time. Pre-trib rapture or mid-trib rapture. Because the post doesn't really fit.
And I have Bible study in a little while.
The conditions in this world are Not going to get any better. Gradually worse and worse.
So -- how long the Church will be here has been the question for a long time. Pre-trib rapture or mid-trib rapture. Because the post doesn't really fit.
And I have Bible study in a little while.
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"God always planned to bring the Jewish People back to the Land on His terms not man’s. And just as the prophets foretold, the Jewish People are returning to the Holy Land from the four corners of the earth after 19 centuries of global exile:
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“Do not fear, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, And gather you from the west. “I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’ And to the south, ‘Do not hold them back.’ Bring My sons from afar And My daughters from the ends of the earth.” (Isaiah 43:5–6)
Not only are the exiles of Israel returning to the Promised Land, but preparations to build the Third Temple are progressing through the efforts of the Temple Institute and the Temple Mount Faithful Movement."
Todays Israel is not the Land gave to them:
Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
I do not believe the Scriptures teach any other Gospel
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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“Do not fear, for I am with you; I will bring your offspring from the east, And gather you from the west. “I will say to the north, ‘Give them up!’ And to the south, ‘Do not hold them back.’ Bring My sons from afar And My daughters from the ends of the earth.” (Isaiah 43:5–6)
Not only are the exiles of Israel returning to the Promised Land, but preparations to build the Third Temple are progressing through the efforts of the Temple Institute and the Temple Mount Faithful Movement."
Todays Israel is not the Land gave to them:
Gen 15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
Rom_1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Gal_3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
I do not believe the Scriptures teach any other Gospel
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
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For I know many are not going to get this on TalkJesus, for i have watched almost 2 years concerning the conversations relating to "Israel", and others through my years of ministry most do not get it! So in essence I will quote the "Holy Scriptures" again. And will not be surprise with the dismay'
(Galatians 3)BSB
"Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his SEED [singular]. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds [plural],”meaning many, but “and to your seed” meaning One, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law that came 430 years later does not revoke the covenant previously established by God, so as to nullify the promise.…"
(Romans 9)NASB
But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “THROUGH ISAAC YOUR DESCENDANTS SHALL BE NAMED.” That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants. For this is the word of promise: “AT THIS TIME I WILL COME, AND SARAH WILL HAVE A SON.” And not only that, but there was also Rebekah, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, “THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER.” Just as it is written: “JACOB I HAVE LOVED, BUT ESAU I HAVE HATED.”
Now I know many still are not going to get it, even though many have read this portion of scripture many times, and heard others try to explain it. I said try to explain. It is simple if you have read the BOOK, like it should be read. Instead of copying some others explanations. If the book have been read like it should be read, many would not be way out in "Left Field" were the one who is at home plate will never Hit the ball in that direction. For many do not have to believe me of the words i have just proclaim. For It has been place in the same Book that i read you read, fully in plain sight, is justification enough.
I will not explain what GOD has already have explain to "His Children" plainly and in sight, and they need no "Interpreter" through out the "WORDS of The Living GOD". Presented to "His People".
Shalom
(Galatians 3)BSB
"Brothers, let me put this in human terms. Even a human covenant, once it is ratified, cannot be canceled or amended. The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his SEED [singular]. The Scripture does not say, “and to seeds [plural],”meaning many, but “and to your seed” meaning One, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law that came 430 years later does not revoke the covenant previously established by God, so as to nullify the promise.…"
(Romans 9)NASB
But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel; nor are they all children because they are Abraham’s descendants, but: “THROUGH ISAAC YOUR DESCENDANTS SHALL BE NAMED.” That is, it is not the children of the flesh who are children of God, but the children of the promise are regarded as descendants. For this is the word of promise: “AT THIS TIME I WILL COME, AND SARAH WILL HAVE A SON.” And not only that, but there was also Rebekah, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God’s purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, “THE OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER.” Just as it is written: “JACOB I HAVE LOVED, BUT ESAU I HAVE HATED.”
Now I know many still are not going to get it, even though many have read this portion of scripture many times, and heard others try to explain it. I said try to explain. It is simple if you have read the BOOK, like it should be read. Instead of copying some others explanations. If the book have been read like it should be read, many would not be way out in "Left Field" were the one who is at home plate will never Hit the ball in that direction. For many do not have to believe me of the words i have just proclaim. For It has been place in the same Book that i read you read, fully in plain sight, is justification enough.
I will not explain what GOD has already have explain to "His Children" plainly and in sight, and they need no "Interpreter" through out the "WORDS of The Living GOD". Presented to "His People".
Shalom
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If you read the whole of isaiahs poetic prophecy, you'll see that he was talking of the 70 year exile to Babylon. It's not about the present day state of Israel or a third temple.
Thus says the Lord,
your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel:
For your sake I will send to Babylon
and break down all the bars,
and the shouting of the Chaldeans will be turned to lamentation.
