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SignUp Now!Its natural to believe God without hearing him?It is.
Ypou kewn about himbeforehe informed you whohe is ?I always believed in God, I was raised knowing about God and Jesus and always believed.
We either we turn to him after hearing his voice he or he turn to us after hearing our confessionWhat? How do you get that twisted to say we turn God?
You need to pay better attention before you claim someone says something.
I have been telling you faith comes from hearing the gospel.
You however teach something from teachers that are not true. You teach that God empowers us to believe and obey.
You act like there is a special empowering before someone believes and obeys to make them believe and obey.
That is not scripture.
Because you will not address the scripture the Lord have provided for me to use in our discussion. And I did address some of them but you keep applying works in discipleship in living a life of repentance with God as if for salvation.I keep explaining them and you don't listen.
We have to believe that we have to obey Jesus.
Look at all the scriptures where we are told to obey, the whole Bible says it.
In the New Testament it starts with John the baptizer.
Why don't you ever address the scriptures I give? All you do is post the scriptures about believe and you ignore the obey ones.
Why do you change what people say?Its natural to believe God without hearing him?
What?Ypou kewn about himbeforehe informed you whohe is ?
God works in the saved. That is about after one is saved and given the Holy Spirit. God works in us to will and do what pleases Him. You know how God does that? He does that after He puts His Spirit in the person and the saved person feels His love and wants to please Him and stay in His love.We either we turn to him after hearing his voice he or he turn to us after hearing our confession
Not before while they are empower . Jesus did the will of the father with delight Yoked with Christ the Son of mans load was made lighter .
Same difference . faith the power of God comes from hearing the gospel
Give us your interpretation of Philippians 2:13-14
I keep explaining all scriptures. It is you who ignores the scriptures. God isn't going to be part of you trying to tell me His written Word says we don't have to obey except believe.Because you will not address the scripture the Lord have provided for me to use in our discussion. And I did address some of them but you keep applying works in discipleship in living a life of repentance with God as if for salvation.
You must think God puts confidence in man in being able to repent from all sins when He knows man is sinful and cannot do it without His intervention just as they cannot save themselves and so He has to do it by asking us to believe Him .I keep explaining all scriptures. It is you who ignores the scriptures. God isn't going to be part of you trying to tell me His written Word says we don't have to obey except believe.
That is not scripture, and it goes against God's Word.You must think God puts confidence in man in being able to repent from all sins when He knows man is sinful and cannot do it without His intervention just as they cannot save themselves and so He has to do it by asking us to believe Him .
That scripture proves what I say! The people BELIEVED, but they were not acceptable to Jesus.John 2:23 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did. 24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, 25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.That is not scripture, and it goes against God's Word.
Since the born again of the Spirit moment was to happen after His ascension for when anyone believes in him are saved, even for His remaining disciples on the day of Pentecost and for every other believer afterwards, the scripture I had posted was not to that effect, but towards the fact that Jesus held no confidence in those who believe because He knew what was in them; their sinful nature, because as He pointed out elsewhere, no matter how much the spirit is willing the flesh is weak, and therefore what is impossible with man to repent from all sins, is possible with God by believing in Him on how we are saved because He came to destroy the works of the devil in our lives so we can follow Him.That scripture proves what I say! The people BELIEVED, but they were not acceptable to Jesus.
If a person wants to be accepted by Jesus, they have to do what he says.
Why do you change what people say?
What?
God works in the saved. That is about after one is saved and given the Holy Spirit. God works in us to will and do what pleases Him. You know how God does that? He does that after He puts His Spirit in the person and the saved person feels His love and wants to please Him and stay in His love.
You don't know that John speaks about John the baptizer before saying that?John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
You should not add to His words like that brother, as if He was inferring that meaning because He did have power to lay His life down and to take it up again because He is God as well.God works to save .We have no power to save ourselves. Our brother in the Lord, Jesus said ; not as I will the one with no power my flesh profits for zero but as you will father the one with power to raise the dead . "let there be" (the law) and there was a new creature .(the testimony)
The mark or sign of God's living abiding word .What he says comes to pass.
John was bearing witness to Jesus as prophesied and when saying John 1:12-13, John was not talking about John the Baptist.You don't know that John speaks about John the baptizer before saying that?
John the Baptist prepared the way for how believers can believe that believing in Jesus Christ is how one receives the remission of sins forever for how they got the gift of the Holy Ghost forever ( Acts 10:43-44 ) whereas John the Baptist's water baptism was about water baptism of repentance for the remission of sins past for why John the Baptist rebuked the Pharisees that they should show works unto repentance rather than just receive his water baptism.You don't realize that John the baptizer prepared the way for Jesus by having the people repent of their sins?
We still have to do that, repent of our sins, to prepare the way for Jesus to live in our hearts.
Hopefully by His grace & by His help, you shall see how to apply His words rightly now for how sinners can receive the remission of sins forever & the gift of the Holy Ghost forever for how they are saved by believing Jesus Christ at His word..Jesus says the prostitutes and tax collectors enter the kingdom, which is when we are washed by Jesus and receive Jesus in our heart, and at that same time seated with Jesus in heaven.
John is the witness, and what he taught was how to prepare the way for Jesus:
John 1:6There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
Matthew 3:3 This is he who was spoken of through the prophet Isaiah: "A voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for Him.'"
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
No such thing as being saved being different than salvation.You just have a problem applying His words elsewhere about how we are to live that reconciled relationship with God thru Jesus Christ also known as discipleship also known as running that race which is why it is separate from salvation.
Only the devil would be behind people being taught and believing they don't have to and can't repent of their sins to get saved.Since the born again of the Spirit moment was to happen after His ascension for when anyone believes in him are saved, even for His remaining disciples on the day of Pentecost and for every other believer afterwards, the scripture I had posted was not to that effect, but towards the fact that Jesus held no confidence in those who believe because He knew what was in them; their sinful nature, because as He pointed out elsewhere, no matter how much the spirit is willing the flesh is weak, and therefore what is impossible with man to repent from all sins, is possible with God by believing in Him on how we are saved because He came to destroy the works of the devil in our lives so we can follow Him.
That was about staying awake all night.Matthew 26:11Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.
Where do you ever get that it means the person doesn't have to obey? Everything is possible for those who obey God. His words are Spirit and life.Matthew 19:25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? 26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
Do you think Paul is speaking of himself doing evil?1 John 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.... 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
2 Timothy 4:18 And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
The just shall live by faith does not mean you don't obey. Living by faith means believing and obeying Jesus.That is why it is written that the just shall live by faith in Jesus Christ that He will be their Good Shepherd to keep their eyes on Him to help them discern iniquities as well as depart from them daily; a child can do that when all they can do is trust the Lord.
Little children already belong and when they get older you better teach them what sexual sins are. When they are old enough to repent of their sins and want to die to the sins of the world and live to please Jesus then they can receive the Holy Spirit.Do consider your presentation of the gospel to little children. Are you going to tell them what sins are by explaining the birds and the bees to them and then tell them that sex before marriage is a sin so they can know to repent of future fornication & masturbation & adultery thru life?
They have to repent of their sins to be saved.If they did not do that for you when you were a child, why do you think you have to tell sinners to repent from all sins now before coming to & believing in Jesus Christ for salvation when they are salves to sin and to death and they know it?
Telling God you repent of sins and you are crucify your sinful nature with Christ and rise to live a new life obeying him is what all did and have to do.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What are you going to tell a sin addict when he walks away from your call to repent from all sins when he or she or they know they cannot do it?
You are hindering people from getting saved.You can see that they are in torment wanting God to save them. Are you finally going to wake up that Jesus will destroy the works of the devil in their lives, that He will set them free and not just give them eternal life for all those that believed in Him?
No such thing as no one being able to believe and obey God.You want to know what works of God you are to do? Here it is again, because only God can do the works of God in us and that includes our living this life of repentance daily by believing in Him that He will help us to follow Him.
You have to believe on Jesus, and he is the Word of God. The Word of God says repent or perish.John 6:28 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
You don't acknowledge the scriptures.God works to save .We have no power to save ourselves.
Jesus said literally eating his flesh will do nothing for them. Some of his disciples thought to eat his flesh was to literally eat his flesh.Our brother in the Lord, Jesus said ; not as I will the one with no power my flesh profits for zero but as you will father the one with power to raise the dead .
You have to believe and obey Him."let there be" (the law) and there was a new creature .(the testimony)
The mark or sign of God's living abiding word .What he says comes to pass.
You not only don't understand that to literally eat his flesh profits nothing, you don't even know that Jesus raised himself.God works to save .We have no power to save ourselves. Our brother in the Lord, Jesus said ; not as I will the one with no power my flesh profits for zero but as you will father the one with power to raise the dead . "let there be" (the law) and there was a new creature .(the testimony)
The mark or sign of God's living abiding word .What he says comes to pass.
Paul convey that running that race also has the consequence of losing the rewards of crowns and the risk of being a castaway by failing to keep our bodies under subjection.Do you think Paul is speaking of himself doing evil?
No such thing as rewards in the scriptures. The scriptures say reward.Paul convey that running that race also has the consequence of losing the rewards of crowns and the risk of being a castaway by failing to keep our bodies under subjection.
You not only don't understand that to literally eat his flesh profits nothing, you don't even know that Jesus raised himself.
JESUS IS THE RESURRECTION AND THE LIFE.
John 10:18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father."
John 2:19 Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days."
John 11:25 Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;
If Jesus didn't raise himself, like he said he did, then you make him a disobedient son, because he said his Father commanded him to do it.Hi thanks for the reply
You would first need to under the parable "drink blood of mankind or eat flesh " .
It simply means to offer ones own spirit life in jeapordy of one own spirit .
Catholics teach wafers literaly become blood . JWs are forbade from taking blood in .Neither look to the spiritual meaning of the parable.
The Bible teaches the life of the flesh is in the blood but literal blood with out the essence of spirit life is dead. If not walking through the cemetery and pouring out blood on dead bones would be the gospel.
Both blood and water as metaphors are used to represent the unseen work of the Holy Spirit pouring out his Spirit on flesh .
The Son of man did not raise his own self from the grave or tomb called the heart of the earth or belly of the Whale
The Son of man Jesus our brother in the Lord said no such thing as he raised him self up. If the father commanded him then the father gave him powerIf Jesus didn't raise himself, like he said he did, then you make him a disobedient son, because he said his Father commanded him to do it.
You don't know the scriptures or are you deliberately saying they don't say what they say.The Son of man Jesus our brother in the Lord said no such thing as he raised him self up.
The son is the Word of God and was always with God and was God.The father also commanded there be light.etc . The son of man was not born until thousands of year later .Power is given to the Son of man ,No power comes from dying flesh signified as sinful . Yet Jesus knew no sin yoked with the father
