What is hell?

[B-A-C]

He'll is total separation from YH

God is present even in hell.

(KJV) Psa 139:8; If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Rev 14:10; he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

He'll is total separation from YH
Moreover, I will banish from them the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, the grinding of the millstones and the light of the lamp.

Yep, and death is the dividing line. Beyond that, no return.

 

[Twistie]

God is present even in hell.

(KJV) Psa 139:8; If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Rev 14:10; he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.

It's still separation they have nothing Good from YH neva eva again

 

[Beetow]

The reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at Rev 20:10-15 is not only a rack but also
a gallows. The reservoir is primarily an instrument for carrying out death sentences
rather than life sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual; it's
momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only long enough
to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's permanent;
viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted
per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the second death because they
will use up their one resurrection to stand and face justice at the Great White
Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15. Nobody
walks away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10-15.
_

 

[Twistie]

The reservoir of burning sulfur depicted at Rev 20:10-15 is not only a rack but also
a gallows. The reservoir is primarily an instrument for carrying out death sentences
rather than life sentences.

A death sentence-- although a sentence with lasting effects --isn't perpetual; it's
momentary. In other words: criminals are subjected to execution only long enough
to end their lives.

The primary reason we call the second death "eternal" is because it's permanent;
viz: according to Dan 12:2 and John 5:28-29 there's only one resurrection allotted
per person. Therefore nobody is coming back from the second death because they
will use up their one resurrection to stand and face justice at the Great White
Throne event.

NOTE: People walk away alive from the fire spoken of at 1Cor 3:5-15. Nobody
walks away alive from the fire spoken of at Rev 20:10-15.
_

Personally idc what it is or isn't to b honest I just shutter at the fact of being separated from Abba
Imagine never feeling Love again neva hearing a kind voice never having peace never having nothing that is good

Twistie

 

[PloughBoy]

When studying Mathew 25, verses 41 to 42 I am wondering what is hell and who is in charge there? I always assumed it is the devil but now I need clarification.
If the eternal fire is prepared for the devil and his demons, that puts a new slant on things.

I always thought hell was where God is not present, so that fits the long term. Yet the devil and his followers are not yet in hell, so where do the unbelievers go meanwhile? How can the devil receive their lost souls?

Hell is a young word a replacement word, The original word meaning is "HADES" or The grave or where those who die go. One place for all but as Jesus has said for a example there is a "GREAT GULF" between the two. you can see what is on the other side, and another example is told by "Flavius Josephus" which seems to be in parallel with Jesus, and when the proper time come to be, it also will be thrown into The Lake of FIRE. There is a place for the dead where all go. but two sides. now how hard is that to believe, Simple no complications, No one has went to heaven but Jesus. simple. if you don't read these "dime store" comic books written by money makers, making Merchandise of The Christ of GOD for profit! simple read the book and not "Hillbilly and Ghetto Rag tag patches. And the DEVil went out and Deceived The WHOLE WORLD. Christianity is a apart of this world and he deceived the christians too! they we are not immune, "for men love darkness and not the LIGHT" and I am man and i still like short skirts and big leg women "men love lies and hate the TRUTH" they hate and refused To come to the LIGHT! I will tell the truth although it may hurt me, I rather be hurt by The Truth than cover myself with lies. Give me LIGHT! Give me not lies I want TRUTH!
LIGHT
That we may see what walks in the DARK! Now days Christian men are walking around claiming they are women, And they believe it, And the churches are backing them up! I do not want to look at a man walking in a Dress. I don't want to see a woman walking in Pants! Now Crucify me. i don't care how old she is. Put a dress on! I do not want to see a 60 year old man walking around in heels and a dress and Lip stick on!

Now tie me to a tree and put nails my hand! I like to see women in dresses not pants, And i don like seeing men kissing men! every time i turn on the television , or look at DVD's! I getting so old i cannot tell a woman from a man! if I was a drunk i might bring a man home at night! And wake in the morning and behold it was "Billy"!


American Standard Version
And death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death, even the lake of fire.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And Death and Sheol were cast into The Lake of Fire- this which is the second death.

Contemporary English Version
Afterwards, death and its kingdom were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And hell and death were cast into the pool of fire. This is the second death.

Good News Translation
Then death and the world of the dead were thrown into the lake of fire. (This lake of fire is the second death.)

International Standard Version
Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. (This is the second death—the lake of fire.)

 

[PloughBoy]

1. The Word in the King James Version:​

The English word, from a Teutonic root meaning "to hide" or "cover," had originally the significance of the world of the dead generally, and in this sense is used by Chaucer, Spenser, etc., and in the Creed ("He descended into hell"); compare the English Revised Version Preface. Now the word has come to mean almost exclusively the place of punishment of the lost or finally impenitent; the place of torment of the wicked. In the King James Version of the Scriptures, it is the rendering adopted in many places in the Old Testament for the Hebrew word she'ol (in 31 out of 65 occurrences of that word it is so translated), and in all places, save one (1Co 15:55) in the New Testament, for the Greek word Hades (this word occurs 11 times; in 10 of these it is translated "hell"; 1Co 15:55 reads "grave," with "hell" in the margin). In these cases the word has its older general meaning, though in Lu 16:23(parable of Rich Man and Lazarus) it is specially connected with a place of "torment," in contrast with the "Abraham's bosom" to which Lazarus is taken

Where ever it is when you die you are going there. Now come back and tells us where it is. You die, you ain't going yet to heaven but it might be paradise , until He calls you to get up from the grave! When you get up we all will getting up and go to heaven together

PS, when you die, make sure you take your coat with you. Because you are going to the grave! They are going to throw that dirt on you! I hope you do not have bad dreams, you going to sleep! make sure you repent before you die, All those bad things you did and all those bad things you said and talked about people are going to be your Night mares! and you cannot wake up! You better repent! it is dark in that Grave.

You should say nothing bad about me talking behind my back. It might Haunt you, in your dreams while in that grave!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

1. The Word in the King James Version:​

The English word, from a Teutonic root meaning "to hide" or "cover," had originally the significance of the world of the dead generally, and in this sense is used by Chaucer, Spenser, etc., and in the Creed ("He descended into hell"); compare the English Revised Version Preface. Now the word has come to mean almost exclusively the place of punishment of the lost or finally impenitent; the place of torment of the wicked. In the King James Version of the Scriptures, it is the rendering adopted in many places in the Old Testament for the Hebrew word she'ol (in 31 out of 65 occurrences of that word it is so translated), and in all places, save one (1Co 15:55) in the New Testament, for the Greek word Hades (this word occurs 11 times; in 10 of these it is translated "hell"; 1Co 15:55 reads "grave," with "hell" in the margin). In these cases the word has its older general meaning, though in Lu 16:23(parable of Rich Man and Lazarus) it is specially connected with a place of "torment," in contrast with the "Abraham's bosom" to which Lazarus is taken

Where ever it is when you die you going there. Now come back and tells us where it is. You die, you ain't going yet to heaven but it might be paradise , until He calls you to get up from the grave! When you get up we all will getting up and go to heaven together

"Hell" in most people's mind is referring to the Lake of Fire, but before that, all dead people go to Hades, a temporary depository for the dead, in which there's a great chasm that separates the wicked from Abraham's bosom. It's also known as the underworld, the dwelling place for those who are “underneath the earth”. Yeshua personally went there for two days and came back on the third.

 

[PloughBoy]

"Hell" in most people's mind is referring to the Lake of Fire, but before that, all dead people go to Hades, a temporary depository for the dead, in which there's a great chasm that separates the wicked from Abraham's bosom. It's also known as the underworld, the dwelling place for those who are “underneath the earth”. Yeshua personally went there for two days and came back on the third.

Most people are not Biblically sound, they will be sound once they are left here on earth when some get rapture away and they are left.

During their suffering during "Great tribulation" is when they will read their bibles and suffer and accept the truth in the bible and trust no man, churches or preachers, and Through that suffer many will be saved.

Then again it might be against the law to read one or own one, like it used to be in 15th century. they use to kill you if you had one or any verse written in the common mans language. Burn you to the stake. man woman or child!

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

Most people are not Biblically sound, they will be sound once they are left here on earth when some get rapture away and they are left.

During their suffering during "Great tribulation" is when they will read their bibles and suffer and accept the truth in the bible and trust no man, churches or preachers, and Through that suffer many will be saved.

then again it might be against the law to read one or own one, like it used to be in 15th century

No, they will seek relief in porn, violence and drugs, and they will blaspheme God even in their suffering. I don't believe in pre-trib rapture, that's false teaching to me.

 

[PloughBoy]

No, they will seek relief in porn, violence and drugs, and they will blaspheme God even in their suffering. I don't believe in pre-trib rapture, that's false teaching to me.

it is never what we believe it is what it is, most have no idea what the Word of GOD says, they only knows what a translation says, and a translation is not the words that GOD SPOKE! Most of the words in a translation never existed and the phrases never existed in which many calls the word of God . it is a translation of made up words to the best of a translations ability. An please do not go to what a lexicons says they did not exist either. So lets keep it light! because if keep taking everything you going to say is going to be false, So let us keep it "JESUS Saves SINNERS" and GOD The Father drags them to him, that is to Jesus, and Jesus introduce us to the father when he gets ready. Now that is the WORD of GOD and Not a translation! ok. Let us keep it simple. trust in Jesus. and let him do the rest.

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

it is never what we believe it is what it is, most have no idea what the Word of GOD says, they only knows what a translation says, and a translation is not the words that GOD SPOKE! Most of the words in a translation never existed and the phrases never existed in which many calls the word of God . it is a translation of made up words to the best of a translations ability. An please do not go to what a lexicons says they did not exist either. So lets keep it light! because if keep taking everything you going to say is going to be false, So let us keep it "JESUS Saves SINNERS" and GOD The Father drags them to him, that is to Jesus, and Jesus introduce us to the father when he gets ready. Now that is the WORD of GOD and Not a translation! ok. Let us keep it simple. trust in Jesus. and let him do the rest.

You're speaking in a very condescending manner. No translation is perfect, in the first chapter of the entire NT, Jospeh should be the FATHER of Mary so it could make up 14 generations, but in nearly all bible versions, "andra", male guardian, is translated as "husband", which not only poses a contradiction with Luke's account, but also undermines Bible's authority since one generation is missing. However, without a translation, there's no access to the Word of God, so I express my gratitude instead of an attitude, and take what I can get.

 

[PloughBoy]

You're speaking in a very condescending manner. No translation is perfect, in the first chapter of the entire NT, Jospeh should be the FATHER of Mary so it could make up 14 generations, but in nearly all bible versions, "andra", male guardian, is translated as "husband", which not only poses a contradiction with Luke's account, but also undermines Bible's authority since one generation is missing. However, without a translation, there's no access to the Word of God, so I express my gratitude instead of an attitude, and take what I can get.

ok let it die, i just do not feel like it, this is very old school i am light years away from this and do not feel light traveling backwards, take it up with a professor who goes over the same stuff every day, year after year with fresh students who are excited about this kind of stuff I'm not.

They are many out here engage in that day after day year after after year, sorry i am not interested, my bad , i should have kept my mouth shut. Ok. you win. have a nice night i going to bed.

 

[Twistie]

No, they will seek relief in porn, violence and drugs, and they will blaspheme God even in their suffering. I don't believe in pre-trib rapture, that's false teaching to me.

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed
Js
Twistie

 

[Jonathan_Gale]

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed
Js
Twistie

That's the final bodily resurrection, not "puff" disappearance.

 

[Twistie]

That's the final bodily resurrection, not "puff" disappearance.

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?”

 

[Beetow]

Human existence on earth is a composite of body, soul, and spirit. (Gen 2:7, 1Thes
5:23, Heb 4:12)

The body and the soul are readily destroyed by means of Hell fire (Matt 10:28) but
I have yet to come across a passage in the Bible teaching that the spirit is
destroyed by that means; or by any means for that matter.

In what condition people will exist in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11
15 minus a human body and a human soul I don't know. It might be that the
human spirit is transferable.

What if God is able to move people's spirit around at will and attach it to a body
and soul other than a human body and soul; say, the body and soul of a demonic
being? The very thought of such a possibility is disturbing.

• Ecc 12:7 . . Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the
spirit itself returns to God who gave it.

The million-dollar question is: What comes next for people's spirit when it gets
back in God's hands?
_

 

[Twistie]

Human existence on earth is a composite of body, soul, and spirit. (Gen 2:7, 1Thes
5:23, Heb 4:12)

The body and the soul are readily destroyed by means of Hell fire (Matt 10:28) but
I have yet to come across a passage in the Bible teaching that the spirit is
destroyed by that means; or by any means for that matter.

In what condition people will exist in the lake of brimstone depicted at Rev 20:11
15 minus a human body and a human soul I don't know. It might be that the
human spirit is transferable.

What if God is able to move people's spirit around at will and attach it to a body
and soul other than a human body and soul; say, the body and soul of a demonic
being? The very thought of such a possibility is disturbing.

• Ecc 12:7 . . Then the dust returns to the earth just as it happened to be and the
spirit itself returns to God who gave it.

The million-dollar question is: What comes next for people's spirit when it gets
back in God's hands?
_

And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God;

 

[Bethel]

"JESUS Saves SINNERS" and GOD The Father drags them to him, that is to Jesus, and Jesus introduce us to the father when he gets ready.

That's hyper calvinism you are preaching and it denies the Grace of God.

Calvin was a heretic, who created a theology that eliminates free will.

Let me show you what happens with you eliminate free will, and teach "predestined to be saved", that is Calvin's invention that came out of his demonic mind, instead of "pre destined to be conformed"...

Now, people that went to hell today, did so because they died a Christ Rejector. = never born again.
So, God holds them ACCOUNTABLE for never trusting in Christ. = Died and went to hell.
Now, how can God be good, true, perfect, if God causes you not to believe in Jesus, and then sends you to hell for not believing in Jesus.

See that INSANITY Theology?

That is JOHN CALVIN, insanity, and many are afflicted with it, and are as crazy as he is.... as his theology will make you a Denier of God's Grace, and REBEL against "the Gospel of Grace" and "the Gift of Salvation" .


John Calvin's theology, will warp your mind, as his was warped.

 

[Twistie]

That's hyper calvinism you are preaching and it denies the Grace of God.

Calvin was a heretic, who created a theology that eliminates free will.

Let me show you what happens with you eliminate free will, and teach "predestined to be saved", that is Calvin's invention that came out of his demonic mind, instead of "pre destined to be conformed"...

Now, people that went to hell today, did so because they died a Christ Rejector. = never born again.
So, God holds them ACCOUNTABLE for never trusting in Christ. = Died and went to hell.
Now, how can God be good, true, perfect, if God causes you not to believe in Jesus, and then sends you to hell for not believing in Jesus.

See that INSANITY Theology?

That is JOHN CALVIN, insanity, and many are afflicted with it, and are as crazy as he is.... as his theology will make you a Denier of God's Grace, and REBEL against "the Gospel of Grace" and "the Gift of Salvation" .


John Calvin's theology, will warp your mind, as his was warped.

No that is written I've come to call the sinners not the righteous
Are you one of the false grace spreading peep like it is written that we are for warned about? I know them temples many go to preach that false grace I've witnessed it for myself
TWISTIE