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I say this to myself too having recently lost a very dear friend.
I am also aware of family who are not saved to my knowledge.

It is a Christian curse that we feel that strain on our hearts for those around us who do not want to accept Jesus no matter how much we try.

I am comforted though by the fact that even in their sin, they are / will be in the hands of a good and righteous judge.
 
they are / will be in the hands of a good and righteous judge.

actually hell is the separation from God,

Matthew 25:41
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 25:46
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”


Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
 
actually hell is the separation from God,

Matthew 25:41
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

2 Thessalonians 1:9
They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,

Matthew 10:28
And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 25:46
And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”


Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
They will be ''away from the presence of the Lord'' as 2 Thess 1:9 says. Not sure we can interpret that as ''completely separated'' from God. It is God's universe.

But never the less, this is God's decision. A decision from an exceedingly good and righteous judge. He has considered all things and chose what He has as a fitting and just punishment.

We may not fully grasp the full suffering now, but in heaven we will and we will agree with God. Important for us to understand that. God will not be wicked and ''hide'' from us what He will do to evildoers.

As such, I am a firm believer in Geneva convention type punishment for the wicked. Here is a good read on it Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols.
 
It is a Christian curse that we feel that strain on our hearts for those around us who do not want to accept Jesus no matter how much we try.

I am comforted though by the fact that even in their sin, they are / will be in the hands of a good and righteous judge.
Just believe. Bind the blind makers, kick em out. My family and friends have no free will. I demand them as my inheritance.
Lot was as uninterested as can be. Abraham just claimed him more or less. Benny Hinn said about his brother: if he can get saved, anyone can! He resisted the Holy Spirit. He felt Him in his room when Benny prayed for him.
If we pray, angels come and it will be made as easy as possible for them.
 
Perhaps brothers you should consider hell and it's horrors.
Really get a grasp of what it will be for the lost.

I say this to myself too having recently lost a very dear friend.
I am also aware of family who are not saved to my knowledge.

It is easy to bask in our salvation and sit back discussing things online. But there is a real world out there who do not know the joy of salvation.

So brothers it really does matter.
Think about a lost eternity and about those you love who may end up there.

You posts make me very sad @Br. Bear @Brother-Paul
It's too horrific to think about and I wonder if it is any use. If it wakes you up to pray, then do, but it can also work opposite and make you apathetic or like: it's all no use. Lets pretend it doesnt exist.
A girl in church read that book from Baxter. We all had to read that from her. Yet she didnt come praying for souls.
 
There was a guy who was raised from the dead. A pastor. He also visited hell. After that, whenever he was starting to have words w his wife, he'd lock himself in the bathroom.

I once felt guilty cause I was on a holiday and a celebrity died. I always felt like if I didnt pray (for anyone), it was my fault. Then later I heard that a catholic pastor came when she was dying and she said: Jesus.. yes Jesus.
Another one, a gay politician got killed. I was in a church in Canada. Hadnt prayed for him. Felt guilty all day. Later I heard God told a pastor to pray for him 4 hours and then said it was good. Then he put on the tv and he was shot. Glad he prayed him into heaven. Im not the only one who has to do the job.

I used to lead the prayer in church in the morning. We had every morning prayer. If my ex wasnt there I did it and got a list from him what to pray for. Skipped it all and only prayed for revival and ppl about to die. I always got mad that so few ppl came. We were w 5 or so. Then I got lazy myself. You get all the attacks and others refuse to help. They were just fornicating and sabotaging it. The last time a girl who fornicated w the neighbor whined that noone else came pray and ex just quack quack quack to her. I was sick of it and we stopped the prayer altogether. I dont get up at 6 for hearing quack quack quack.
Year later it was game over. Ex said God had said that the whole church should pray. I was like: be happy that a few do. Better than nothing.

Then I prayed alone. I did warfare. He forbid me to pray w the kids around and I was always w the kids. Used to pray for souls hours a day. No internet. Now blah.
With the concentration camps the whole world stood up to help. With hell noone cares.
 
Perhaps brothers you should consider hell and it's horrors.
Really get a grasp of what it will be for the lost.

I say this to myself too having recently lost a very dear friend.
I am also aware of family who are not saved to my knowledge.

It is easy to bask in our salvation and sit back discussing things online. But there is a real world out there who do not know the joy of salvation.

So brothers it really does matter.
Think about a lost eternity and about those you love who may end up there.

You posts make me very sad @Br. Bear @Brother-Paul

Greetings sister,

First things first if I may, read my posts in the first three pages, I have agreed with what you say, I have given explanations and scripture to @KingJ showing why I believe these things, which are exactly as you are saying.

I also do not have one family member saved, from mine and my wife's families, going backwards or forwards at least three generations. I am therefore aware of what scripture says and the TOTAL LOSS, which I have avoided saying till now for obvious reasons.

With all scripture I always keep an open mind, we come across to many who preach their gospel, rigidly, there is no other way. With basic scripture this can be fine, but one getting into meat it is always possible someone may raise another scripture verse I/we may not have considered.

Now, on this basis, I took what @KingJ has said, though I think it total poppycock, and said OK, lets go back to the start and look at this from the beginning, in other words, let scripture talk. Having done this, you will read, @Br Bear made a comment, he had read something or discussed something that, may or may not, both options considered, cause reason to read and consider. I replied, as you will see, to say I also read some scripture that made me say, OK let's consider this, again it/they may or may not make any difference to our current understanding.

ALL scripture is God breathed and given for us to search and understand The Truth.

I can only assume you have not read all the posts, and I appreciate it can be hard sometimes adding part way through discussions without looking back, I guess we are all guilty of that at some stage, especially when the number of posts increase significantly.

So the above confirms the context of the discussions at this stage, but does not say this is right, that is wrong, although we are pretty sure we may know. If we do not consider all scripture verses on a topic, or as many as possible, surely we are in effect blinkering our thoughts regarding God's Word for us all.

I post the reply in His Love sister, Peace be with you.

Jesus is Lord.
 
It alarms me that anyone thinks they can pray someone else into heaven. Scripture says it doesn't work that way. Certainly we're supposed to be praying for others. We can pray that other people will come to Christ for their salvation. But the actual 'salvation' is between each individual person and God. Each person either accepts Christ or rejects Him.
 
It alarms me that anyone thinks they can pray someone else into heaven. Scripture says it doesn't work that way. Certainly we're supposed to be praying for others. We can pray that other people will come to Christ for their salvation. But the actual 'salvation' is between each individual person and God. Each person either accepts Christ or rejects Him.
You cannot pray just anyone into heaven. There are promises for family. If you pray you make it as easy as possible. You bind the blind makers. If someone then still would reject, there's nothing you can do. That guy from Wales prayed the whole day and he almost prayed whole Wales inside the Kingdom.
And if God shows you ppl you must pray for, you can be sure He doesn't do that for nothing. If they were unsavable He wouldnt ask you to pray.
 
They will be ''away from the presence of the Lord'' as 2 Thess 1:9 says. Not sure we can interpret that as ''completely separated'' from God. It is God's universe.

But never the less, this is God's decision. A decision from an exceedingly good and righteous judge. He has considered all things and chose what He has as a fitting and just punishment.

We may not fully grasp the full suffering now, but in heaven we will and we will agree with God. Important for us to understand that. God will not be wicked and ''hide'' from us what He will do to evildoers.

As such, I am a firm believer in Geneva convention type punishment for the wicked. Here is a good read on it Geneva Conventions and their Additional Protocols.


Separation means just that -- separated. Have you ever separated eggs to be used in a recipe. The egg is broken and the white is carefully separated from the yoke. They are completely Separated from each other. The yoke and the egg white. The egg white is used in the recipe the yoke is put aside for other uses.

so -- yes -- God is spirit and Is everywhere Now. But -- in eternity-- Not in hell. God Is truly the light of this world. Take God Away and there is Total Dark.

God has told mankind -- you and me and everyone else -- exactly what to expect in eternity -- the very good that is possible and the very bad that will Also exist. As has been shared already -- God has the lake of fire and brimstone and Total darkness Only for satan, the beast and the false prophet. And That will exist for Eternity. The Only reason that people will end up there is because 'we' reject God's Way for us to be in Heaven. And the Way is through the blood of Christ that was shed on the cross. We acknowledge our need For it and accept that as God's gift To us. And we thank Him For His gift of salvation. Belief in our heart and acceptance by our mouth.

Yes, a judge takes our case -- makes a decision -- either Good or negative consequences. And in This case -- the negative consequence is eternity in a horrible place called the lake of fire and brimstone. The 'judge' is God and He's already told us how to enjoy a 'good' consequence to our crime of sin. Accept His gift of atonement.
 
My granddad was an antitheist, lived in houses from deported Jews in the war, cheated w half the neighbourhood on my grandma. My mom told him he had to get saved. My dad hit her for saying it. One day before he died God said: you have the keys. Use them. Tomorrow will be too late. Saw him later in a dream, saved. My parents said on the funeral: well I hope he made it. I said hello I have been praying 20 years for that man. Come on now. Just demand satan to leave.
 
It alarms me that anyone thinks they can pray someone else into heaven. Scripture says it doesn't work that way. Certainly we're supposed to be praying for others. We can pray that other people will come to Christ for their salvation. But the actual 'salvation' is between each individual person and God. Each person either accepts Christ or rejects Him.

So true Sue

But there is a lot of false teaching our there, the devil is hard at work, his time is running out. We must be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, we are to teach and guide those who are misguided in a caring and loving way, with scripture.

The RCC believe they can pray for a persons salvation when they have died.

Sad, but the Lord has given us a job to do, to God be the Glory in Jesus Name as we do His will, guided and protected in Jesus Name. Amen
 
So true Sue

But there is a lot of false teaching our there, the devil is hard at work, his time is running out. We must be wise as serpents and harmless as doves, we are to teach and guide those who are misguided in a caring and loving way, with scripture.

The RCC believe they can pray for a persons salvation when they have died.

Sad, but the Lord has given us a job to do, to God be the Glory in Jesus Name as we do His will, guided and protected in Jesus Name. Amen
Isn't it false teaching to say there is no hope? Lots of ppl get saved when they pray like that.prayer of 3. One guy here who gives away that book, first prays, then does outreach. He lead 2000 to the Lord in 2 years with a small group, when he lost his job.
 
Separation means just that -- separated. Have you ever separated eggs to be used in a recipe. The egg is broken and the white is carefully separated from the yoke. They are completely Separated from each other. The yoke and the egg white. The egg white is used in the recipe the yoke is put aside for other uses.
Disagree. It is not that simple. There are no borders for God. He places a border on those in hell.

Mankind is separated from God right now. Yet in the OT and NT He still reaches out to and interacts with us. The devil is eternally separated, yet God still talks to him.
 
. God Is truly the light of this world. Take God Away and there is Total Dark.
A saying that sounds correct is not necessarily correct. Can you show a scripture? John 3:19 speaks to darkness being figurative.
 
Disagree. It is not that simple. There are no borders for God. He places a border on those in hell.

Mankind is separated from God right now. Yet in the OT and NT He still reaches out to and interacts with us. The devil is eternally separated, yet God still talks to him.


There is a great gulf between Heaven and hell. It bit more than a border I think. :smile:
 
There is a great gulf between Heaven and hell. It bit more than a border I think. :smile:
I think you are thinking of Hades. There was a great gulf with Abraham's bosom.

Personally I believe we will visit hell in the afterlife. Take turns being on a ''hell duty'' of sort.

Jesus can go anywhere He wants to and we will reign with Him. Those in hell are separated from us. Not us from them.
 
I think you are thinking of Hades. There was a great gulf with Abraham's bosom.

Personally I believe we will visit hell in the afterlife. Take turns being on a ''hell duty'' of sort.

Jesus can go anywhere He wants to and we will reign with Him. Those in hell are separated from us. Not us from them.

My Error regarding Hades thank you.

Regarding the rest of your comments I really wonder what you are reading my friend.

We are talking about Heaven and Hell as explained in The Word not a rehabilitation centre.
 
Because I like you so much you may take my turn.


I don't think your post in #124 came out as you planned

I think you are thinking of Hades. There was a great gulf with Abraham's bosom.

Personally I believe we will visit hell in the afterlife. Take turns being on a ''hell duty'' of sort.

Jesus can go anywhere He wants to and we will reign with Him. Those in hell are separated from us. Not us from them.


@KingJ said the above things not myself (corrected here)
 
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