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Hello Joe Johnston
Hello Joe,
I hope I can come close in answering your question. Before I do yes I believe what God tells us in Ephesians 2:8-9, All of it. You can even go to my homepage in my profile go to at my blog that I do.
in my reply I post.
[The covering is not a hat or a veil that one wears on the head, but an attitude that a person has toward the one who is in authority over them. As Paul mentions in verse 3, the Father is in authority over Jesus Christ, who is the Son, and also was the God of the Old Testament. If Jesus Christ is subject to the Father, then man needs to be subject to Christ, just as Jesus told His disciples:
Continuing in 1 Corinthians :
Continuing:
In conclusion then, a woman should have long hair and be under the authority (veil, covering) of a man because of Eve's sin in the Garden of Eden, when she chose to believe Satan rather than God. But one day this curse will come to an end when all people, both male and female, are born into the family of God.]
Hey Joe you made me look up these verses thanks. I had to do a lot of reading, thanks again.
But then I found a site in which the above is pasted from so I hope this answers your post?.
Hello Joe,
I hope I can come close in answering your question. Before I do yes I believe what God tells us in Ephesians 2:8-9, All of it. You can even go to my homepage in my profile go to at my blog that I do.
in my reply I post.
[The covering is not a hat or a veil that one wears on the head, but an attitude that a person has toward the one who is in authority over them. As Paul mentions in verse 3, the Father is in authority over Jesus Christ, who is the Son, and also was the God of the Old Testament. If Jesus Christ is subject to the Father, then man needs to be subject to Christ, just as Jesus told His disciples:
"You call me 'Master' and 'Lord,' and you do well to say it, for it is true."
Paul then goes on to speak about a woman praying or prophesying with her head uncovered, which could mean two things: not being under the authority of man, and also, not having her head covered with hair of the proper length. He refers to this in verse 6 when he says that it would be a disgrace for a woman to cut her hair too short or shave it off. This type of action also expresses an attitude of rebellion on the part of a woman. Let us continue. "For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head."
These verses will also make many women upset. Adam was created first out of the dust of the ground: "Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
Then God saw that the man needed a helpmate and created Eve from one of his ribs: "So the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the LORD God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man. Then the man said, "This at last is bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man."
Paul then mentions a strange thing in verse 10 of 1Corinthians 11. Let's take a look at that scripture again: "For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head. "
What did he mean here? Simply stated, a woman should have long hair so that heavenly angels can differentiate between a man and a woman, just in case an angel has to quickly intervene to protect a woman (Hebrews 1:14). This verse has also been open to many interpretations through the centuries. Continuing in 1 Corinthians :
"In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered?"
So, though men and women are equals in God's eye, and joint heirs of eternal life (1 Peter 3:7), a woman is nevertheless to be subject to and under the authority (veiled, covered) of the man (husband). It will continue to be that way as long as there are human beings on this earth who are in the flesh.
Continuing:
"Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice nor do the churches of God."
So, as women should have long hair, according to what Paul is saying here, it is also a disgrace for a man to have long hair! Long hair on a man or short hair on a woman are both attitudes of rebellion against what God is saying here. And Paul concludes that the Churches of God have no other practice. In conclusion then, a woman should have long hair and be under the authority (veil, covering) of a man because of Eve's sin in the Garden of Eden, when she chose to believe Satan rather than God. But one day this curse will come to an end when all people, both male and female, are born into the family of God.]
Hey Joe you made me look up these verses thanks. I had to do a lot of reading, thanks again.
But then I found a site in which the above is pasted from so I hope this answers your post?.
