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The 2 Kinds of Faith of Abraham

23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

When John tells you to believe, he means True Faith with works. If you trully believe Jesus is King, you do what He says, and He said we must repent. Because the devils also believe and they tremble, so, not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who DO the Will of the Father which is in Heaven.
 
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
In the context of the kind of faith James was talking about, he was rebuking the church for giving a blessing to the poor after church service that included the church's faith in God to provide without the church leading by example by meeting the immediate needs of the poor from the bounty collected at church service.

James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

Verses 15-16 was the offense that James was rebuking when the church was sharing their faith in God to provide for the poor to the poor without leading by example. That is why he challendged that church to show their faith in God to provide by giving from the collection at church service to meet the immediate needs of the poor, trusting God that He has provided enough for the immediate needs of the poor & for the church to run on till next church service.

James 2:18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

If you share your faith in God to provide to any one, you best lead by example as that is the only kind of faith that requires works for others to see your faith in God to provide.

Next, James referred to only that kind of faith he was talking about that requires works by his reference to Abraham & Isaac.

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?

Look at the point of the reference in the Old Testament by how Abraham named the place in regards to that kind of faith in God to provide that requires works.

Genesis 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.

James was never talking about the faith in Jesus Christ that requires works because that would void grace if grace was by works.


Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Here below is Paul talking about the faith in Jesus Christ for salvation which is without works by how he referred to Abraham's faith to believe God for why this was considered unto him for righteousness.

Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? 2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.

3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.


4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

If you have any doubts, then read what Paul had just written prior to that reference in chapter 4.

Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

James shared the right hand of fellowship so that means you & others are reading the words of James wrong because by misapplying James words in that way, that runs contrary to the rest of scripture including the gospel of John.

Galatians 2:
8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:) 9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision. 10 Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same which I also was forward to do.

There is no other gospel.

Galatians 1:3 Grace be to you and peace from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ, 4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father: 5 To whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.


Strong words for Paul to say and yet in that same Book of Galatians, testified to having been given the right hand of fellowship with James, Cephas ( Peter ) and John.



When John tells you to believe, he means True Faith with works. If you trully believe Jesus is King, you do what He says, and He said we must repent. Because the devils also believe and they tremble, so, not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who DO the Will of the Father which is in Heaven.

You ae paraphrasing from several references there mixing them together.

What is the will of the Father in verse 40 below?

John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

What is Jesus warning churches about false prophets in Matthew 7:13-27 saying that not every one saying Lord, Lord shall enter? ( Luke 13:24-30 suggests the Marriage Supper at the rapture event for the "sitting down" to eat )

That not every one will be found abiding in Him when the Bridegroom comes as they risk being excommunicated from the Marriage Supper & left behind for being workers of iniquities, but they are still His for why these be the least in the kingdom of heaven for breaking His commandments and why they shall be resurrected after the great tribulation as vessels unto dishonor in His House.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.
 
James was never talking about the faith in Jesus Christ that requires works
Yes, he was, there is no other faith that saves or justifies, so if he is saying: "saved by works", and "justified by works", he must be talking about Faith in Jesus Christ, because it is the only faith that can save and justify. And charity is a work too. So when he rebukes their faith, is because they had no works, no charity. So it was dead faith, and dead faith can't save them, only true faith with works.
Paul is your one and only witness for faith without works, I have multiple witnesses and Jesus Himself, all saying you must repent, keep the commandments and do the will of the Father. So, my view is established. You choose whom will ye serve. Jesus and His Apostles or Paul. You can't serve both masters.
There is no other gospel.
There is only one gospel, "this gospel" with the "memorial of her"

Matthew 26:13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.

This is why we disagree, we live by different gospels. Remember the life is in the Son, he who hath the Son hath Life. Paul has nothing that it wasn't given to him from above.
 
Yes, he was, there is no other faith that saves or justifies, so if he is saying: "saved by works", and "justified by works", he must be talking about Faith in Jesus Christ, because it is the only faith that can save and justify. And charity is a work too. So when he rebukes their faith, is because they had no works, no charity. So it was dead faith, and dead faith can't save them, only true faith with works.
You are not paying attention to James words.

It is the church's faith in God to provide that does not profit the poor nor save the poor when the church is not leading by example by meeting their immediate needs. It is in the eyes of the poor, the church's faith in God to provide for the poor that is dead, because the church was unwilling to lead by example. The church's faith in God to provide for the poor being dead, will not profit the poor nor save the poor from the elements and starvation.
Paul is your one and only witness for faith without works, I have multiple witnesses and Jesus Himself, all saying you must repent, keep the commandments and do the will of the Father. So, my view is established. You choose whom will ye serve. Jesus and His Apostles or Paul. You can't serve both masters.
Don't forget the gospel of John too.

The problem when referring to His commandments is, that is about abiding in Him as His disciples as in running that race, but you seem to mix salvation and discipleship as if that is how one gets born again of the Spirit when it is not.

Consider Jesus words on how one gets born again which is the same as getting eternal life and you will see Jesus citing that it is by believing in Him is how we are saved. Period; John 3:7-18

John 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Once saved, His disciples are to teach new believers His commandments so that by believing in Him as their Good Shepherd, they can trust Him to help them to follow Him & keep His commandments.
There is only one gospel, "this gospel" with the "memorial of her"
Pay attention to the words, brother.

Matthew 26:10 When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me. 11 For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always. 12 For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial. 13 Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.

The gospel is not about the woman but about Jesus Christ BUT in relation to this gospel of Jesus Christ, a memorial shall be done of her for what she had done in preparation for His burial BEFORE His trial & crucifixion had taken place.
This is why we disagree, we live by different gospels. Remember the life is in the Son, he who hath the Son hath Life. Paul has nothing that it wasn't given to him from above.
But how does one have the Son in them? By believing the gospel of Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:1Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him..... 11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. 13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

Now for us knowing who that professes Him that are abiding in Him to know who to have fellowship with and who to correct, and if unrepented, to withdraw from, we have this.

1 John 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
 
The church's faith in God to provide for the poor being dead, will not profit the poor nor save the poor from the elements and starvation.
James 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

-Who has faith in this case? The poor, or "one of you". It is a member of the Church who has faith, but without works, this faith is dead and will not save the "one of you", any member of the Church who professes to "believe" in Christ. It's is not talking about "saving the poor" from starvation, it is talking about saving the Church from hell. The church are the ones who have "faith" in Jesus:

James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

-Can dead faith save "him", the man with dead faith? -No. It has nothing to do with the poor here. It refers to any man with dead faith.

The problem when referring to His commandments is, that is about abiding in Him as His disciples as in running that race, but you seem to mix salvation and discipleship as if that is how one gets born again of the Spirit when it is not.
I'm glad you bring up the Spirit, because you will agree with me the Holy Spirit cannot sin. So anyone who is born again, cannot sin, because His Spirit is with us:

1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

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Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

-That is why it is: Repent first, be baptized, and then you receive the Holy Spirit. Because the Holy Spirit cannot inhabit a desecrated temple. New wine must be put into new bottles and both are preserved. So, the only way to receive the Holy Spirit, is to repent, because the Holy Spirit cannot sin, and He will not justify sinners, they must repent or else perish:

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:
But how does one have the Son in them? By believing the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Yes, believe and thou shalt be saved:

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
 
James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?

When John tells you to believe, he means True Faith with works. If you trully believe Jesus is King, you do what He says, and He said we must repent. Because the devils also believe and they tremble, so, not everyone who says Lord, Lord will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, only those who DO the Will of the Father which is in Heaven.

Yes we need the labor of God's love working in us as a work of his power (faith). Without it we cannot believe and therefore do it to His good pleasure .

The Creative law of faith as a work. "Let there be" (the law) and "it was good" (the testimony)

If not then "let there be" (the law) and "nothing changes nothing". (.the witness )

Becarefull on how we hear .
 
James 2:16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

-Who has faith in this case? The poor, or "one of you". It is a member of the Church who has faith, but without works, this faith is dead and will not save the "one of you", any member of the Church who professes to "believe" in Christ. It's is not talking about "saving the poor" from starvation, it is talking about saving the Church from hell. The church are the ones who have "faith" in Jesus:

James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

-Can dead faith save "him", the man with dead faith? -No. It has nothing to do with the poor here. It refers to any man with dead faith.
I disagree. I plainly read that "you" as anyone of the church because in the eyes of the poor, the church's faith in God to provide is dead in the eyes of the poor for why the church's faith will not "profit" the poor nor "save" the poor from the elements & starvation.

I believe you are reading someone else's teaching into those verses instead of plainly reading the words.
I'm glad you bring up the Spirit, because you will agree with me the Holy Spirit cannot sin. So anyone who is born again, cannot sin, because His Spirit is with us:
Here is scripture rebutting your false teaching that a saved believer cannot sin having the Holy Ghost in them.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

How does a saved believer grieve the Holy Spirit? By sinning. That is why this warning is given to believers because only unbelievers do not have the Holy Ghost.
1 John 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

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Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

-That is why it is: Repent first, be baptized, and then you receive the Holy Spirit. Because the Holy Spirit cannot inhabit a desecrated temple. New wine must be put into new bottles and both are preserved. So, the only way to receive the Holy Spirit, is to repent, because the Holy Spirit cannot sin, and He will not justify sinners, they must repent or else perish:
This is about knowing who among them that profess Him, are abiding in Him as His disciples from those that are not whom John was rebuking because they think sin ceased to be sin for when they do it for why John referred to how Christ walked in the light and no darkness was in Him at all. 1 John 1:3-8 Obviously we can still sin daily for why we need to confess the sins and asks for His help not to do it again 1 John 1:9 & 1 John 2:1-2 & Hebrews 2:18 & Hebrews 4:12-16
Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

Yes, believe and thou shalt be saved:

James 2:20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
Only faith in God to provide requires works, especially when you are sharing that faith to the poor for God requires us to lead by example rather than just refer to that faith in God to provide for the poor.
 
How does a saved believer grieve the Holy Spirit? By sinning.
He tells you not to, how many times do you thing you can grieve the Holy Spirit? One, if you err greatly:

Isaiah 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.
Only faith in God to provide requires works
These verses are not talking about faith in God "to provide", they are talking about justification:

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

-Justification of the wicked is an abomination, He will never justify the wicked. That is why you have to repent first, be justified later.
 
He tells you not to, how many times do you thing you can grieve the Holy Spirit? One, if you err greatly:

Isaiah 63:10 But they rebelled, and vexed his holy Spirit: therefore he was turned to be their enemy, and he fought against them.

These verses are not talking about faith in God "to provide", they are talking about justification:
But James was talking about the church's faith in God to provide which was being shared TO the poor in James 2:15-16 in the context of James 2:14 & James 2:17 for what kind of faith James was really talking about.
Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.

Proverbs 17:15 He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are abomination to the Lord.

Proverbs 24:24 He that saith unto the wicked, Thou are righteous; him shall the people curse, nations shall abhor him:

-Justification of the wicked is an abomination, He will never justify the wicked. That is why you have to repent first, be justified later.
Romans 5:7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. 11 And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

How does a sinner receives this atonement?

Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

What did Jesus say in how a man can defile himself to wit is how the Holy Spirit can be grieved per Ephesians 4:30?

Matthew 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20 These are the things which defile a man: .....

What did Paul says about how a believer builds on that foundation which said foundation laid by Jesus Christ that can never be removed? How is it that by works on that foundation, a saved believer can defile His temple of God?

1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. 14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

That is why believers are warned not to sow to the flesh les they reap corruption, because they can still be tempted by the devil to sin.


James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. 13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. 15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. 16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.

Galatians 6:1Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.


3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another. 5 For every man shall bear his own burden. 6 Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things.

7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. 9 And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.


May God cause the increase for I know I cannot.
 
faith in God to provide
You invented this faith. There is no such thing. We have One Faith in Jesus Christ, for salvation.

James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

-Those who trully believe on Him, have charity with the poor, that is works. Those who don't have charity or works, have dead faith.
they can still be tempted by the devil to sin.
They can still be tempted, but they can't sin. The crown of Life is for the man that endureth temptation, not for the sinner. Do not err.

-You should try reading something else other than Paul, because Paul is your only witness to salvation without works, Jesus and His Apostles preach repentance, and the keeping of the commandments, so at the mouth of three witness the matter is established. And God cannot lie:

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.
 
You invented this faith. There is no such thing. We have One Faith in Jesus Christ, for salvation.

James 2:14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

-Those who trully believe on Him, have charity with the poor, that is works. Those who don't have charity or works, have dead faith.
James had referenced Abraham & Isaac and so I ask you what faith is Abraham talking about for why he had named the place Jehovah-jireh? What does Jehovah-jireh means? When you find out, you will know I did not create that faith.

Genesis 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.
They can still be tempted, but they can't sin. The crown of Life is for the man that endureth temptation, not for the sinner. Do not err.

-You should try reading something else other than Paul, because Paul is your only witness to salvation without works, Jesus and His Apostles preach repentance, and the keeping of the commandments, so at the mouth of three witness the matter is established. And God cannot lie:

Exodus 23:7 [...] I will not justify the wicked.
You need to set aside your errant teachings against Paul and consider what Jesus had taught His disciples to pray followed up by a warning.

Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven. 11 Give us this day our daily bread. 12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. 13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

We are not to sin, but that is not inferring that a saved believer can never sin.

1 John 2:1
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Know of any good deed that you put off for tomorrow?

James 4:13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that
. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

So we need to trust Jesus Christ as our Good Shepherd to help us to follow the Himself for He is the power for how we can follow .
 
You invented this faith. There is no such thing. We have One Faith in Jesus Christ, for salvation.

Yes one labor of Love. (Faith the power of love) Christ's work of faith that he works in us, with us in order to both reveal his eternal will and empower us to perform it to His good pleasure . The faith of God is not of our own imaginations of our own fleshly minds.

Faith the power of God to believe his understanding. . One of the better things that accompanies his work of salvation in us .Don't leave earth without it
But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

Hebrews 6: 9-10 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak. For God is not unrighteous to forget your work and labour of love, which ye have shewed toward his name, in that ye have ministered to the saints, and do minister.


In that way we cannot have faith in or towards Christ undlss he first works in us to both will and do it Yoked with him the burden is or can be lighter
 
James mentioned the work, "when he placed Isaac upon the altar". Not the faith of "God will provide".
And yet the reference to that faith Abraham was talking about is known even by James by what Abraham named the place by as Jehova-jireh to this very day.

Genesis 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.

Look up on the internet the meaning of the name Jehovahjireh.

Meaning of Jehovah-jireh

Jehovah-jireh [N] [H]
Jehovah will see; i.e., will provide, the name given by Abraham to the scene of his offering up the ram which was caught in the thicket on Mount Moriah. The expression used in Genesis 22:14 , "in the mount of the Lord it shall be seen," has been regarded as equivalent to the saying, "Man's extremity is God's opportunity."

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What does it mean that God is Jehovah-Jireh?

“Jehovah-Jireh” is one of the many different names of God found in the Old Testament. “Jehovah-Jireh” is the KJV’s translation of YHWH-Yireh and means “The LORD Will Provide” (Genesis 22:14). It is the name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.

John 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

That's two sources.

You can look it up at other links on the internet search engine if you are not satisfied with that but at the very least are 2 witnesses/sources for that specific faith James was talking about in regards to Abraham's faith in God to provide.
 
specific faith James was talking about in regards to Abraham's faith in God to provide.
No, James said Abraham was justified when he offered Issac upon the altar:

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Not when he had faith that God will provide. It was the work of offering Isaac upon the altar that justified Abraham.
 
In that way we cannot have faith in or towards Christ undlss he first works in us to both will and do it Yoked with him the burden is or can be lighter
Yes, I agree. No man can come to Christ on his own, the Father has the draw him first. But I think we were all drawn here, already. We are all discussing Christ. So we are past that, aren't we?

-The next thing, after one is drawn to Christ, is whether or not he will repent of his sins. Because many are called/drawn, but few/only those who repent are chosen. The naked/unrighteous are not accepted at the wedding, only the righteous, with white robes of fine linen are accepted. And fine linen is the righteousness of the saints.

-And this works of righteousness, even tho they were made possible by the Father, they are still a persons own works, of their own free will. The person must choose to do the Father will, and accept Him. Otherwise it wouldn't be a relationship, because a true relationship requires the consent of both parties.
 
No, James said Abraham was justified when he offered Issac upon the altar:

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

Not when he had faith that God will provide. It was the work of offering Isaac upon the altar that justified Abraham.
Abraham's faith in God to provide was what he had shared with Isaac before hand, and this faith in God to provide was seen when God provided the ram to replace Isaac as the sacrifice.

Genesis 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering? 8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.

13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. 14 And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovahjireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the Lord it shall be seen.

Anraham named that place per his faith in God to provide. All Jews knows this for why James, a former Jew, was referring to that moment about Abraham's faith in God to provide. May God cause the increase.
 
Yes, Abraham had faith before, and God provided afterwards. But that is not what James is talking about, James talks about Justification, which is by works:

James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

This is a very specific point in time, when Abraham offered Isaac upon the altar. It is this particular work that justified Abraham.
 
Yes, Abraham had faith before, and God provided afterwards. But that is not what James is talking about, James talks about Justification, which is by works:
No. It is not.
James 2:21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?

This is a very specific point in time, when Abraham offered Isaac upon the altar. It is this particular work that justified Abraham.
That specific point in time is about Abraham's faith in God to provide.
 
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